I wouldn’t cry a single tear over racials in fact I prefer the alliance racials. Gnomes are a major turn off tho. I feel like punting them whenever isee 1.
Well let’s look on racial in pvp:
Alliance
Humans - PvP Racial, can detect rogues/druids. Have an extremely good PvE racial for melee.
Dwarfs - PvP Racial, can break poison including rogue blind while being blinded.
Gnomes - PvP Racial, can break root and slow.
Night Elf - PvPvE Racial, can be invisible, move faster in stealth, dodge more.
Have paladins that can be litterally immune for 12sec, dispel magic and poison and disease on one button/GCD. Can make others immune to physical damage. Can make others immune to slow and roots. Can heal 100% hp with instant cast. Extremely efficient heals. Can stun for 6sec. By faaaaaaaaaaaaar the best pvp healer. Extremely good blessing for raids with Blessing of Salvation making raids MUCH easier.
Dwarf priests, can make players immune to next fear.
Horde
Orcs - PvP Racial, can resist a stun one if four times average and get a little more attackpower.
Undead - Pvpve Racial, can break a fear.
Tauren - Pvpve Racial, can do a 2sec stun with 0,5sec cast.
Troll - Pve - Can get a little faster cast/attack time.
Shamans, great burst damage. Windfury totem with 30y range, good heals at high cost. Poor mobility, can’t dispelled magic but can purge.
You think Orc and Undead racials is OP? Sure it’s great but everyone can use FAP and LAP potion. Almost everyone can trinket a fear. All alliance can get fear ward from a dwarf priest.
Do you still believe Horde is getting “boosted with racials”? From my experience, from playing both faction, it’s the opposite.
They don’t understand m8 that they roll easy mode faction . I’d much rather have their stuff indeed . They can have my stun resist for all I care 
You yourself are playing a race which passively gets a 25% ADDITION to any stun resist chance and call alliance the easy mode faction?
It’s worth 8 talent points and it’s the absolute best racial in-game for PvP bar none.
It should be more like 1 resist per 3 minutes, then it would be more in line with the other racials.
Imagine undeads having an additional 25% chance to resist fears. Would that be cool? And there are way less fears than stuns in the game.
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Ye it’s easymode u can have my stun resist . The only one that constantly whines here is you. Constant crying . Like seriously xD
That’s like a millionaire saying to a poor man:
“You can have all my money buddy!”
All the while knowing that it will never happen.
Nice little game there 
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Boring reply :p. I still prefer alliance racials so. But keep crying 
Why have you rolled an orc then? Because you like how they look?
I’ll tell you. Cause back in vanilla I was horde. Yeah imagine that . Nostalgia idd.
Let’s not forget gnomes are small humans . Very boring. It’s not all about racials
I get that. It might very much be legit for many many people.
But you can’t deny that a 25% additional chance to resist stuns which is very often the deciding factor in a PvP encounter is attractive.
I much more pref thundercow. More meat on the bones, stomp + nova then
BRRRRRRRRRRRRT
I have no qualms about the tauren racial. It’s one racial that fits in the game perfectly.
Idiotic how every AV thread derails into a discussion about racials, paladins and shamans.
What makes AV broken are the position of the horde cave, and the design of IBGY and SHGY.
Everything plays a part of course, but the game breaker is the combined effect of GY design+cave location. It makes it too easy for the horde to first pressure, then choke out alliance at SHGY while at the same time easily defending IBGY.
On the other hand once SH is lost and alliance spawn at SP taking SH back is nearly impossible: horde has the high ground, free flow of reinforcement from their back lines and the small area between bunker and mountainside can be easily controlled.
To find a similar choke the horde needs to get to the final bridge in dun baldar, but by then alliance has already lost.
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Agreed 100%.
Trinket that can get you out of a stun + FAP makes up for a lot of what the “best” racials in the game does. The only downside is the CD of both.
Only rogues, warlocks and mages doesn’t have a trinket to get out of stuns in Classic.
Well the problem is that you basically have a trinket like that that just automatically removes every fourth stun you’re about to receive, and therefore that attempted CC not even acting as an interrupt.
And they get to have the PvP trinket on top of that.
Now contrast that to a trinket you actually have to activate, and can only do it every 5 minutes, and takes 1 trinket slot.
Maybe you can begin to understand what I’m saying?
I don’t play as an orc in Classic, so yeah, I do “understand”. I’m just saying it’s not a game breaker, you’ve got other ways to cope with it, and sometimes it’ll decide if you live or die then. But not all the time. Not even close to all the time.
Very, very few times have I ever felt that the stun resist is what would’ve made the difference, in my personal experience.
You must be right about the whole issue. This is indeed your “personal experience” on the matter.
You do know the reason people complained about the Orc racial in the past was because they perceived it as being over 50%, right? Without any awareness of how chance averages out in larger samples than individual fights, and doesn’t average out on your side as the attacker but at the side of the orc instead.
Which is when some people decided to try it, except they used a paladin’s HoJ to test it out, which is also affected by the base chance to resist spells, so that wasn’t really the greatest idea.
But fine, if reasoning with you by speaking of my personal experience backed by my actual rated experience isn’t enough, then I’ll just use another one of the genius excuses people used to defend AV premade exploits back at the start:
“If Blizzard saw a problem with it, then they’d do something to stop it.”
Funny, right?
Blizzard could solve this really fast.
Reverse the map.
So we the clueless allience can see just how superior horde players are, when they have the entire map against them.
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