15k on Nostalrious PvP and 14k on northdale in sale Time, both pservers…try again ignorant foul
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Aparently I have to explain things slowly.
Cronyism is a term used to describe a situation in which people are treated differently based on the people they know. ‘All animals are equal but some are more equal than others”.
Normally, if an issue crops up you place a Ticket and wait for a GM response, which during times of high-traffic like these ‘white bread weeks’ often take quite some time to get a response to.
In this case however ‘a guy knew a guy’ and by not following the official channels like everybody else the issue was responded to (far) more promptly.
Then - and this is what I was getting at - instead of the random GM’s regular customers get or at least finding as neutral as possible arbiters, that same guy and/or apparently Lore (who is buds with the streamer who made money of pirated use of Blizzard’s IP) looked into the case, which by its very nature poisoned the whole matter.
Yes, the third strike would be if instead of quoting the Grim Totem Spirit Guide-taming case and not going into the matter wether layering made that ‘bug that existed since Vanilla even in Retail’ more prevalent etc. the end result would have been blatantly more in favor of said streamer, but again, already not following the standard procedures and not having as impartial as possible arbiters make this smell of cronyism.
And that is if we go by the whole explanation given by Lore, the fact that this matter - already started to being discussed on gaming media - is still ongoing yet being un-Stickied already makes people dread that once again Blizz is trying to sweep things under the carpet, as this has sadly been the general m.o. for far too long.
Which is sad, also as others and I saw Classic as A New Hope.
Note that this has already affected my decision on wether to take long-time Game Time or a pay by month scheme.
As there is realistically still hope of Blizz doing the right thing (we’re three weeks in, after all), forcibly or not (like I said, gaming media are already starting to pick this matter up, being the third big explot besides a rather iffy launch in a short time, it’s likely only a matter of time now till media like the BBC and Bloomberg will pick up on this clown-fiesta of amateurism) and I - foolishly - mailed stuff to alts on another account meaning I’d need game time to pick it up anyway (wether by bounceback or said other account) I will likely extend my Game Time just once but the way they are handling things doesn’t inspire me to buy more.
Which is a shame, as I met a bunch of friendly people in game. But I don’t want to support things I don’t agree with.
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Proof please
It’s not so much that the devs are incompetent, but they’re tasked with looking after a game with a design they don’t even believe in. These are likely retail devs assigned to a spin-off project of the company, likely part of the same team that over recent years moved retail even further away from was left from vanilla.
And now you’re expecting the same devs that made leveling a trivial chore before the real game of raiding begins to care much that the leveling experience is ruined by exploits? The same devs that made patterns available at trainers and turned professions into ilvl progression slots to care much that the economy is unbalanced?
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This is getting more depressing day by day, my motivation is killed. I had so much hype for this game but most of my friends already left because of ques, there is no economy in the game, you vendor everything (due to layers), messed up leveling process, and now raid abuse, what’s next?
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In all of this there is still no argument against the decision itself though.
In which way the decision taken in this case is more favourable compared to the stance Blizzard takes in similar cases?
The answer is, it isn’t… so the judge could have been the streamer’s twin brother, if the decision is ultimately according to policy, claiming preferred treatment on that decision is off-the-mark.
Ask Mike Preach if that was the case early BfA with the bugged XP potions that people abused…
Seriously stop with the bull.
Two words:
Integrity
Consistency
For Integrity of the game and their own Integrity Blizzrd need to sort this mess out.
For Consistency they need to hand out bans / roll backs for any one who they deemed to have abused this bug, whether that’s Fred or the biggest streamer on the planet.
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Layering / gamebreaking abuses yea.
But I’m actually not ready for starting from lvl 1 once again.
3 weeks is pretty much a time.
Don’t see how the damage from layering and other game abusses can be fixed.
Keep bumping this for visibility. It isn’t stickied anymore.
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Their characters who have profited from the exploiting needs to be deleted. That would hurt enough, discourage continuing abuse and more importantly give the economies of a lot of realms the ability to recover. Simple temporary bans with no character deletion will not fix anything nor discourage continued exploitation. Abusing layers is a cancer, not a wound. You don’t put bandage on a tumor.
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Did smth happen by now?
You should watch the VoD before accusing him of abuse man. It’s all there for everyone to see.
Nice streamer asked nicely to abuse a bug once, how as blizzard rep can u resist? It’s just a pixels anyway. No evil intent.
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There are rumors of people getting banned, but personally I doubt Blizzard cast a wide enough net to catch everyone who engaged in the practice.
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Yes rumors. No other info. Not a single streamer got ban, so no public sources are available. We can only guess or dream about it.
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duuude, im not here to shout out facts and reasons.
Anyway, I was trolling back then on his channel, ofc after reasonable explanation he did nothing wrong.
It’s weird, but it doesn’t look like anything has happened yet. Otherwise you would have people complain in reddit etc
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Yes it is. And people are still abusing this hard, by the looks of /lfg and trade chat
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hello I am from the future. bans have happened and reddit gone wild. see you in 3 days having fun there
ban the exploiters
yes that means streamers too
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