Seriously, what is the point of having the Option to Need, Greed and Transmog Roll, when someone with an Item Level of 630 still gets to Need on 590 items?!
Feels really bad to know that you could have progressed your character, but instead someone Need-Rolled what was just a Transmog for them.
What was wrong with the old Personal Loot system?! At least back then you would just get Gold or an Item… But now you get to see someone 40 items levels above you, steal items that would have helped you… And that is honestly infuriating!
And for the 100 time in a row: PL simply rolled need for everybody on drops in the back, only difference now is that you can actively roll and with luck some ppl actually pass on an item.
PL gave loot to “overgeared” ppl all the same, it was just less visible.
And in the end,transmog is more valuable than gear - mog stays forever, gear gets replaces soon after.
With GL you actually see what your whole group worked for, the loot that is the group effort, instead of having unwanted stuff shoved into your pockets you don’t need and then have to waste effort to maybe trade it to someone who might need it.
At least with Personal Loot, you didn’t get to see that someone just stole your item.
And it instead just demotivated me, to put in less effort for the rest of the run. Because why would I put in effort, when someone is just going to steal drops from me. For me it’s character progression, for them its fashion.
What’s the whole point of even having the Transmog Roll Option, if people are just going to Need for Transmogs anyway?
No but, you would get someone scream you stole the item even when you directly won it despite hidden rolls. They then made the same loot problem threads.
Go do that in delves; better gear + no loot competition.
I get more useful loot in GL than PL. PL always gave me items I didn’t need and as soon as I got an item from a wing I knew I wouldn’t see another item from the same wing for which I was there; now I get a fair chance to pass or roll whenever I want.
Not saying GL couldn’t be improved - more item drops per boss and an adjusted loot table (no bows/glaives for groups without hunter/DHs) would be nice, bur thats a GL problem and not a PL vs GL problem.
They’re people after transmogs, myself included. Everyone rolls NEED, “if you can’t beat them, join them”.
Blame Blizz for making the Transmog roll beyond useless… they could’ve made it a separate roll to hand out the appearance while the actual item goes to NEED and GREED…
Till then I’ll press NEED if I don’t have the appearance. It’s ridiculous where I’m “forced” to use the Greater Vault to collect LFR variants because LFR is hands down the hardest stuff to acquire as a collector.
Ideally I’d have preferred Higher difficulty gear unlocking lesser difficulty variants, then I wouldn’t have to enter LFR, but Blizz wouldn’t do that is it’d take players away from doing it resulting in longer queues.
Rolling for tmog isnt even the bad part. It’s rolling need to sell the item for gold. And if nobody is biting, it just gets vendored.
Guilds were asking to bring Loot Master back so they can funnel gear in their planned raids. Blizzard’s version of “giving people what they want” is this abomination, where pug loot is more cancerous than ever.
Every one that makes a post about this should instead use that energy to demand that blizzy gives us a better way to earn transmogs.
Right now the tmog roll is completely useless. You can only win with that roll if no one uses need and in an lfr that does not happen very often. So essentially people that pnly go for the mog can either use need or dont go at all since the dedicated mog roll is just a shony button that does nothing
Maybe, but those 1-2 irems were never those I was there for, so they could’ve just as well not dropped at all; now when I get something I can actually use that item.
Yeah, it should be an easy fix to block people ‘who have a higher level item equipped’ from clicking need…the issue is that they could be rolling to give it to a friend or even sell the item to someone who actually needs it !
No one stole your item, the item dropped and the people that wanted it rolled. If they already had the SAME item at a higher level they couldnt roll need.
Only content that is currently still rewarding gear wise is delves, bountyful ones; rest is just content to do to fill the vault and get one item secured, because useful drops are mostly nonexistent (M+ is PL after all) and yes, for LFR you need to be lucky to roll 80+ or 95+ for rings/curios.
Trick is also to gamble with your rolls; if you just had a lucky roll, it’s smart to roll on an item next despite not wanting it, because chances are high you’ll roll low.
M+ is just the usual PL headache to me; only one out of 4-5 runs gives an item and then it’s something I don’t need, but uses up my drop slot; so then I know I’ll have to run another 3-4 dungeons before even having a chance at getting an item again, so vault is the only chance left for that week.
PL always gave me items I didn’t need and as soon as I got an item from a wing I knew I wouldn’t see another item from the same wing for which I was there; now I get a fair chance to pass or roll whenever I want.
