For people who hated AP grind

Is it? There arw people nolifing on korthia who are doing their 3rd paragon already meanwhile there is me with not even exa… Tell me how to catch that up in raid, or at all, and how is it impossible to fall behind.

what does it matter if they’re getting paragon chests? how do you fall behind from this? if you wanna talk falling behind, your gear and especially your dom sockets matter infinitely more than someone having a couple more sockets and ever so slightly better conduits. it’s mostly irrelevant details.

I didnt said it matters, i just compared it to AP which u could farm if you realy wanted to, u cant “cath up” korthia, because there is daily cap, which is random as bonus, see difference?

AP grind never existed , people made it up in their heads.

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nighthold was 14.5% damage increase from max level. that was pretty huge, esp compared to being like 1 or 2% behind because you’ve not done any korthia stuff. granted it’s not realistic to compare no level to max, but it certainly made a pretty big difference. was also a big deal to have the last golden or whatever it was in trial of valor. but for large parts of legion AP was whatever as well.

I dont do korthia dailies or rares, nor the weekly, I don’t do the weekly souls, I don’t do torghast cause I don’t see point in anything higher than 235 cause no interest in raid, I don’t bother with the daily covenant stuff, I get the 1k ap passively by either doing my dungeons or pvp cap (depending on character)

there’s no point in doing any of that stuff if you don’t see the reason to

Yes ,and ?
No matter what you did,no matter where you go ,you would get AP .And requirements for level up were EXPONENTIAL ,at the same time catch-up was EXPONENTIAL.

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yeah but not that much if you didn’t try. you’d be a bit behind, on top of your offspecs being really bad ofc because you wouldn’t have had leveled those up or had the right legendary (if you were lucky enough to have it for your main spec). i don’t think you get punished nearly as hard nowadays if you don’t bother doing this extra stuff.

remember there was a time when you had to manually do your artifact knowledge, if you didn’t hit cap as fast as possible to start doing that, and then actively keeping ontop of it as it came off cd, you were behind until they uncaged it

Yes,that was lame ,they should made it automatic from start.

It’s not after they destroyed what torghast was. Torghast has turned inte visions 2.0.

Korthia doesn’t matter. Literally the only thing it has to offer is sockets. You can completely ignore Korthia and not fall behind on the power curve. It only offers meaningless and cosmetic rewards of importance. The sockets aren’t all that powerful as domination sockets matter a lot more. Get them from the raid. All the gear Korthia offers is outmatched by Heroic SoD gear.

There’s no race to open as many paragon chests and get nothing useful out of them. The tamed mauler harness drops from the paragon chest and literally that’s all there is to Korthia. It is impossible to fall behind.

It is a vast improvement over an endless grind.

Could it improve more. Of course.

You can ignore Torghast after upgrading your legendary. Renown is a very easy thing to do each week (2-3 levels). A million times quick etter than any AP endless grind where we are never done.

And guaranteed HC item with socket slot, but that can be gained via rng raid so partly agree.

But for me, those hand are biger than sockets.

U could do the same with AP difference between someone who just played the game and someone who farmed it 6 hours a week was pretty small.

We were actually done at the last patch of Legion, it was hilarious when we had trillions ot quadrillions of AP(not sure about the exact word in english)

AP being bad is a different fact from rep farming (I mean, the traditional rep, not the archivist).

Actually, both are bad.

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AP system was great ,but people brainwashed them-self’s to believe that it was grind, but it wasn’t.
Also, so what if it was "endless " .That meant you have been rewarded for persistence ,not that you had to grind trying to beat exponential requirements.

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That it ends at one stage

Yep, I can tank +18 with no sockets, wrong legendary and hybrid talents :blush: I’ll get my sockets and min max with time. I’m not in rush.
Sockets help yeah but not essential.
Lego yeah helps but the power is as the same as the 190 ilvl :rofl:
Min maxing is cool, burning out in the game ain’t

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I’ve had this theory for the longest time, that WoW players condition themselves willingly into having a miserable time in the game, then they go on and hate the game for it.

I personally stopped doing everything I find not fun. I don’t do M+ anymore and I don’t do Maw assaults. They’re just not fun to me. And you know what? It’s perfectly fine. I do Korthia with warmode on, I do callings every now and then, I farm herbs and ores, and I raid… and WoW is a pretty good game.