And they LITERALLY ARE NOT FORCING YOU INTO THAT! I cannot stress enough how much you fail at reading, people have mentioned in this very thread, SEVERAL TIMES that you WILL NOT get flagged if you do not go near the enemy guards, if you do the quest CORRECTLY and sneak around like you’re supposed to do. You are not flagged. Stop trolling because that’s literally the only reason I can see as to why you’d keep this argument going.
Sorry, but this is game. And game implies trial’n’error. I can’t ideally avoid all that PVP-flagging right from the first time, I do this quest. And reading 3rd party guides and watching videos to do every single quest - isn’t how this game is supposed to be played. Whole reason for constant talent/ability pruning - to make game 100% intuitive, so 3rd party guides wouldn’t be mandatory to play it. And if it’s impossible to avoid all this PVP-flagging, then it’s forced.
Again. I just don’t want to be forced to “attack” other faction hub, i.e. do wrong things from PVE point of view, and therefore risk being PVP-flagged, cuz any wrong thing should be punished. Just don’t want. Because I play in PVE mode exactly because I want to avoid PVP. That’s why whole theme of this expansion is wrong. Even PVE players are forced to do PVP things, cuz it’s hurr durr BFA’s theme. May be scrap this theme then, cuz it’s completely wrong?
For me it means being abused and exploited as cannon fodder to feed PVP guys. And this makes me feel like 3rd grade customer, because I pay exactly the same sub fee, as they do. As whole idea of getting fun at expense of other players - is completely wrong design. So, if I’m as valuable customer for Blizzard, as any PVP player, then they should completely remove PVP-flagging, except manual one, in order to balance PVP and PVE mode, i.e. to care about providing as enjoyable PVE experience, as PVP one.
Well you’re only complaining about ONE quest. It’s hardly requiring you to learn and watch guides for every single quest in the game. You did a quest wrong and got punished for it, move along. Like you said, trial and error. You just learned which route doesn’t work. Try again.
I pay the same sub free as the guys in Method, Pieces and Limit too.
So I should be entitled to world first kills based on that. Why don’t Blizz make the mythic raids soloable by me? I paid for the content.
It’s not just one single quest. Whole War Campaign is about it. For example on Alpha/Beta this zone wasn’t my first zone to advance to. Drustvar was. And I had exactly the same problems there.
Then stop going near enemy faction guards, it’s literally that easy. Just keep your eyes open and don’t blindly run into towns and outposts.
You are not only missing the point that doing the quest correctly won’t flag you for anything but also that you are still WM off in a WM off shard and therefore shouldn’t be attacked by other players.
May I also point out that pvp means player vs player and, if you do go wrong in the quest, it’s player vs guard/npc.
Please read all the responses to you as this thread seems to have racked up over 80 replies when the correct answer was given near the start.
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Yep, this quest is notorious for this you phase out for the battle then spawn on top of the guard. Best solution is just kite it into your outpost which is in 15 yards or so and let guards deal with their own.
In terms of guard population yes Alliance have a bit more since Horde have no guards in Voldun at all even though it’s kinda their territory. On the other hand Horde have permanent Loa blessing while on their side of the map and couple 30 min outpost blessings on the other. So it’s kinda even.
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And several times after that, too. He simply doesn’t want to listen to it as he’s sure he’s right and literally everyone else is wrong.
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I don’t see any point here. WM or not WM - PVP-flagging means other players can see “X is under attack” in their chat, react on it, PVP-flag themselves and come to kill me. As simple, as that. PVE mode doesn’t mean 100% guarantee, that other players will never attack me. Do you have any real proves, that nobody would ever attack me in PVE mode?
And second thing. If it’s player vs NPC, then PVP-flag isn’t needed. Right? And if PVP-flagging happens, then it’s about PVP. Simple logic.
Again. I don’t understand, why do you defend it? If nobody cares about it in PVE mode, then nothing will happen, if we’ll remove it. And players, who want to purposely attack other faction hubs, can always flag themselves manually or switch War Mode on, so we won’t lose this aspect of a game due to this change.
So what? Just simple change, that doesn’t affect anything? So why so many players are against it? When this happens, I usually have suspicion, that some players are just selfish and don’t want game to become better for other players.
You just want the game to be ONLY what you want it to be. You want to be able to fail a quest and still be rewarded and get the prize for coming in first.
You’re the selfish one here.
Blizzard doesn’t want you as a horde player, to just be able to take a stroll down Stormwind. That wouldn’t make any sense with the setting in mind.
I hate pvp just as much as you, but that quest you mentioned, I did it on my horde alt and yeah when I got too close (I approached through the water, but was spotted), I thought: Oh Sh-
But it was fine. Most people who WANT to pvp are in warmode. You won’t see them. Sure, there is a small chance you run into someone who’s also flagged, but with this mission for instance that chance is just so small.
It does. Affect a LOT.
And you are being selfish for asking for it, imo. You can’t go into enemy territory; treat that as a PvE rule. It makes sense. They’re the enemy faction. Heck, if you want to be RP about it; treat any players that might attack you as an NPC. They’re just defending their town.
Also: PS: Just play alliance. We don’t get silly missions like that. 
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I can’t go to enemy territory, but I’m forced to? This contradiction again.
And again. Affects what? Give me an example. Even if some players will make selfies in a middle of your capital. Who cares? It’s “peace mode” and if they won’t be able to affect your gameplay somehow, they will lose interest pretty fast. And in order to do something meaningful, they’ll need to flag themselves or turn War Mode off.
If Blizzard don’t want them to walk to your cities, there are still PVE ways to solve this problem. I don’t understand, why PVP should be the only possible solution. There are phasing, porting away, killing by lvl150 guards, etc.
It’s easier to stop playing this game or this expansion, than to deal with this problem.
Again, you are not forced to. Do the quest correctly and you will not get flagged. Fail it and you do. Actions have consequences.
Then stop playing.
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Too late for this. But flying, that will be implemented pretty soon, will solve many such problems. Not all, but many. This is 2nd major reason, why I don’t like to play this game without flying.
I also can treat pretending, that you don’t understand this problem, as trolling. Cuz forcing PVE player into PVP situation, even if it’s just risk - is obvious forced PVP. Not accepting this simple truth - 100% hypocrisy. What can happen - will happen. Murphy’s law. That’s, what Blizzard count on, when they make content like this. And even if it’s just 1% chance to be killed by other players, it’s not 100% PVE mode anymore. And the worst thing here - is that game developer intentionally tries to increase this chance. Why would he, if he respects PVE players the same way, as PVP ones? I really don’t understand.
Like I’ve said and others said before - you only get flagged for pvp on this quest if you’re not careful
So you’re NOT forced. You’re just not careful
And if you think flying will help you on this quest…well good luck with that.
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Dont do the quest. If it goes against your sensibilities then simply dont do it. Of course if that means that you cant continue the quest-line because of that then you’ll have to look at yourself and ask if something that is entirely avoidable/not ‘dangerous’ is worth skipping just to avoid what you feel or assume is a PvP situation
Yes! That one is awful for horde. You have to time your approach so the patrol isn’t there, and then watch for it before you finish the pet battle, otherwise you do indeed get dumped out under the hooves of elite cavalry.
Funny side, you can kite that patrol a few metres off road and the horde FP guards will run up and engage it. If you’re lucky, it doesn’t even manage to land a hit and you don’t get PvP flagged by it 
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You’re actually not quite being sent into enemy territory. If you approach from the river, you can find routes in that the guards will not bother you on.
Problem is the quest starts you from the other side, so everyone naturally tries to take the bridge-o-many-guards.
It is badly designed, but it can still be done without getting flagged.
Also, again, you’re still on the WM-off shard. Everyone around you opted to not have WM. Most of them don’t care if they can attack you, they’re not interested in the fight.
Best advice is just get in there, get it done, maybe get killed by the elite patrol, but it’s over now and you can move on.
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I’ve got tired of this hypocrisy. “Do it right”, “Don’t go bridge - go water”. But how would I know in advance, how should I do it right? There were no warnings, that I shouldn’t have gone along this bridge. I actually checked it carefully before doing it. There are NO PVP FLAGGED MOBS there. See my screenshot for reference. How could I know, that some PVP-flagged mobs have so long aggro radius, that they can aggro right from such long distance? (BTW, they didn’t even need to hit me to flag myself - aggroing was enough, cuz I never even fought them, when I was crossing that bridge) I didn’t even see them. My graphic settings aren’t ultra, so render range isn’t that long.
And I also didn’t know in advance, what this quest expects me to do. There was simple assumption - that PVE objective spots MUST HAVE BEEN SAFE. That I could get that crates without being attacked by guards. And I actually managed to get to 2 spots without PVP-flagging. And I didn’t know in advance, that I needed to abandon south-west route, to go around whole city and approach from north instead. Position of north spot actually suggests, that I shouldn’t have approached it from water anyway. There are NPCs there, I shouldn’t have attacked. And in order to do this, I should have approached from tunnel. That’s, what I did. Killed and PVP-flagged anyway.
Conclusion is pretty simple. It’s almost 100% chance to be PVP-flagged during this quest, if you don’t know how to do it in advance. And it’s called forced PVP. That’s it.
And flying will help a lot. I would be able to cross that bridge and get to my horde quest giver without being PVP-flagged. And I’d be able to approach to quest spots from any direction, I would want. So yeah, -50-70% chance to be PVP-flagged.
And again. It’s not only about this quest. This quest is just example. Whole War Campaign is about it. I will need to do WQs in other faction territory on daily basis in order to get reps, that are necessary for Pathfinder achievement. Risking to be PVP-flagged every day? No way.
It’s as voluntary and as safe, as using that spyware application to buy Blizzcon tickets. Yeah, to buy tickets - is your voluntary decision. But you’re forced to risk to give away your personal data in order to do it. And no matter, if there are ways to avoid this risks - at the end it’s forced, just because if you wouldn’t want to use this option and risk to lose your data, you wouldn’t have any other options to achieve the same goal.
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This must the be the silliest post i have read. Most of the campaign takes you near or to the other factions areas. Sometimes near guards.
Being flagged by NPCs with warmode off does nothing. Players cannot hit you still or flag pvp.
This whole thread is just a waste of time. The Op needs to learn how to the quest correctly.