While I get it that this game isn’t only a PvP game and that’s why they lock it behind the reputation but what’s the purpose of adding these stupid power curves that require you to do content you don’t enjoy. There is simple solution. Make legendary items not work in PvP and scale down to highest PvP ilvl available. Problem solved.
It makes PvP easier to balance and more enjoyable while you can design craziest possible PvE things without thinking “will it be op in PvP”.
Completely subjective. In terms of PvE end game structure it was one of the best for me. It has it’s own problems in terms of class design that were later fixed but end game structure wasn’t one of them. You have clear progression through dungeons and raids and you don’t need to get level 80 renown or conduits. You can even work on your reputation or attunments doing dailly Heroic Dungeon with friends if you joined later.
Are you pretending you like world quests? Doing the same thing over and over again in time of 2 years expansion. Do you enjoy callings? That require you to do the same quests?
Do you enjoy getting 3x useless items from Great Vault? I feel that your post is just for the sake of not agreeing with someone and to defend incompetent devs.
Does not having 2 legendaries prevent you from doing content you enjoy now? No.
Will it prevent you from doing content you enjoy on the day 9.2 launches? No.
Why do you imagine that not having 2 legendaries in the first couple of months (or whatever) will lock you out of content, when you will be in the exact same position as the vast majority of people, who also aren’t going to log in every day just to do ‘chores’?
Oh and dont forget the few tokens you have to buy to afford the new prices lege bases. I just levelled 2 ali chars and the prices of 262 bases went from 30-50 to 200-300k:D I guess I dont need legendaries that much. No way I would ever support such predatory money making strategy. I rather burn the 20€ than buying a token and this seem to require a lot of tokens to stay competitive…
Pretty much yes. Since he is an arena player. Not having second legendary means that he is not going to win any match and nobody will accept him from LFG. So in theory not but in practice yes.
For the reason I discribed above. It means Whisperer cannot literally play the content he likes.
No. It will prevent me 1 month after the game launches.
Because your absolute position is absolutely irrelevant in PvP and your relative position matters.
Because while you stay the same power level, some enemies won’t. And if the only way to progress is doing month(s) of content you dislike that has nothing to do with content you like, you can probably understand what’s wrong with that.
Well you don’t think so, but you never won rated arena, so you literally don’t know what you talk about.
Also, nobody says that gear doesn’t matter. But at least you can get gear through arena.
That’s the difference.
Sockets are way different. They add like 1-3% to my overall damage. Legendary sometimes even 20-50%. And some legendaries one shot, which is even more important (doing the damage in correct times).
He CANNOT because nobody will take him from LFG and what’s the purpose of playing arena if you have no chance to win.
There is difference in not being able to win with everyone and losing to everyone.
You have to be narrow minded not to see it. It’s like “Yes dude you can go into MMA cage and fight professional UFC fighters as an amateur. You are not going to win most of the fights”.
Same thing can be said about you. Just because you walk around doing nothing doesn’t mean it’s the way everybody enjoys the game. The thing I complain about doesn’t have to affect your gameplay. I’m 99% sure that if they removed Renown, Conduits and Soulbinds you wouldn’t even notice.
There is 0 irony. You are more narrow minded because instead of at least trying to understand the people who cannot enjoy the game you pretend problem doesn’t exist.
For me your statements are idiotic I don’t think we will ever find consensus because you are simply ignorant.
I find it hillarious, how they try to establish how fine it is for arena players despite them not playing rated arenas ever. Or at least not winning.
How about it’s required grind for you, as you like it, and not for players who don’t like it?
That way you’re not robbed of content, but it doesn’t affect other players negatively.
Your-thinking-level kind of idiotic.
Don’t try to judge power level of content you’ve never completed. You have zero clue and it shows.
How is it an insult when you are truly ignorant? You pretend problems of others are less significant than yours. That’s the best definition of being ignorant and I don’t find it offensive but just factual statement.
Because it actually means he can’t play because noone will play with him. What is too hard to understand for you? There are no 1v1 arenas or solo queue. You queue with other people.
There is literally 0 irony. You are the biggest hypocrite here.
Anyway you pretend that World Quests are pinnacle of world content when it’s lowest effort way of doing it. You are literally bragging over doing same quests you did while leveling over and over again for 2 years because devs are too lazy to provide proper world content. Class campaign and Suramar campaigns are proper world content. Why don’t we have them anymore? Also they pretended they care about RPG feel and then they locked covenants. Why don’t we have class related dailly quests? For example why aren’t Hunters hunting? What’s the difference between playing Mage and Warlock besides killing enemies with different spells.
I would never pay for 17 y.o. game just to do the same world quests over and over again. Fighting low script ai that you kill with 2 attacks to collect 5 random drop items without any context.
You mean to say every single arena player will have their second legendary on the very first day it’s available, except for Whisperer? That he’ll be the only arena player who doesn’t want to put in the daily commitment? I find that hard - actually, impossible - to believe.
I refer you to my response to Brodanyo above. Unless you plan on never doing the new content, there will be some who do it before you and some who do it after you.
Only if you never bother doing it at all. In reality, some will get there ahead of you and others will get there behind you.
Since it won’t be available then obviously no. Why do you ask that stupid question? What the purpose. However every arena player will get it asap. I’m 100% sure about it since I play arenas and I know this community very well.
Literally all PvP players will farm Zereth’Mortis until they get legendary and mats for changing PvP pieces into set pieces and then you will never see these characters there. What’s the point in putting power curve there?
Fine with me. I have no issues with any of that.
I just had to make it clear that ‘playing the game’ means very different things to different people.
In its most basic form I actually agree with you. All endgame content should have their own progression so everyone who only enjoys one of them can just do THAT content without having to do other activities.
But you’re twisting this into other things and I take issue with that.
Insult more please.
I can judge anything because I understand much more than you think.
Do you think scientists who study black holes actually go into outer space and find black holes? No. They STUDY them. They use the information they have and use their brains (amongst other things).
Insult more.
My turn now…
I have played this game since launch and it will never seize to amaze me how depraved and utterly toxic PvPers can be. They’re truly the scum of the earth. And they prove that time and again.
You’re a good reminder why I stopped posting on these forums for a month.
