Brutal! But true!
Unless I misunderstand Bags general advocation isn’t what they’re saying but how they’re saying it. So it’s not that particular topics or opinions are bannable, but when the people that hold them can’t express them without breaking CoC then it becomes a problem.
Is it only my feeling, or some people want to react only to what they want to react? What i mean with that is how people try to find only the flaws in someone else’s comments, without understanding the context of his comment.
I still see you as a reasonable person, that has logic and common sense…so i try to “recapitulate” the story and then try to give a better answer:
So, our beloved OP came on forum and said this thing:
To which i replied:
Because the OP was lacking a proper argument for that, he started to twist the words and replied with this:
To which i came with a simple question:
Did you payed attention to the “white” words? So he changed his idea that something controversial that might offend,upset or make someone angry is actually a insult, threat and bad language.
If something is controversial that might offend someone (let’s say i go eat chicken in front of vegan protesters), that doesn’t mean is a insult, threat, bad language.
And this is the thin line, that most people don’t understand: the difference between a ideological offence (ex: i’m offended that you eat pork meat) and a direct insult (ex: starting to curse someone directly).
Then bellow that comment i wrote that:
Is it wrong? To call someone childish because he really is childish? Is considered a direct insult? So (because i know you’re a woman) let’s take this example: your husband is playing too much Fortnite with his friends and you go to him and say : " hey husband, stop being childish and play all day Fortnite, go clean the garage" …that means you insult your husband? And don’t tell me you never called someone childish…because that’s a lie.
This hyper-sensitivity is the main issue on this forum. People can’t take a critique or a metaphor to describe him (even if it is not a insulting one), without considering it a insult.
Another thing i still didn’t understood and i try as much possible (maybe my intelligence is too limited) is why people should get:
What has to do the forum with the game? (btw OP, can you answer? or you avoid to give a proper argument, as usual?)
But nobody pays attention to this ridiculousness? Right? Let’s pay attention to Xyao for calling someone childish. That’s more thrilling and entertaining…
But when these “people” trigger others (me for example), by doing what this OP did in the example above, that’s okay? Only when i trigger others is wrong? What type of mentality is this?
The fact that the OP refused and avoided to answer the questions related to his own statement? That’s not cancel culture? What is it? Self-denial?
That’s the issue…Blizzard has 90% of fault for all these problems: instead to temper and make people understand that any opinion can be valid and should be listened, unless is a direct personal insult ( and i mean real insult, not calling someone childish), they fuel this drama by supporting these “fragile” people. This is so wrong…
I will never side with them. I can’t side with ridiculousness. It’s against my principles.
THIS IS SPARTA xD
Yes, but their opinion is more important than yours, because their opinion has a emotional status also. And as we know and it was already proven on this forum: EMOTIONS>COMMON SENSE>LOGIC. That’s the basic rule you need to learn in 2020 bro.
Just say my name. Don’t worry i won’t get offended if you call me out.
That’s not selfish. That is called “radicalism”, aka : “my way or the highway” .
Something like that…and soon this will be applied in real life also, not only on forums. We already saw some examples where people where harshly punished (fired from work, marginalised, beaten and even killed) for things they said and even for things that they didn’t said (if someone remembers the story of that football player who was enforced to publicly apologise and after sacked from the club because his wife posted a “wrong” opinion on fb).
Theres a huge diference between someone being triggered and you just purposely trying to antagonize people… which for the sake of well boredom I decided to check your forum posting history and its just you making massively offensive or insulting posts hoping to get rises out of people. If you truely believe this is a positive use of your time then I pity you quite frankly.
Someone who finds comedy in the suicide of a streamer is not someone who should be allowed to speak in public forums in my opinion but hey im sure it was all just to trigger snowflakes right?
Look, as far as I’m concerned if you break the rules you take the punishment, no questions asked.
Hell I mostly agreed with his original post, but when I saw him saying that instead of having people put on ignore because he can’t see what they might be saying (which is the point of the ignore feature) they should be permanently banned? That’s a problem.
For those who break the code of conduct, the punishment comes from Blizzard, not us and I don’t much like it when people try to make up their own punishments to add their little brand to the respective punishment.
Problem with insults is that they are subjective. Maybe you didnt mean to insult, but the one on the recieving end still felt insulted. Was it necessary to use the words childish and stupid (posts) to make your point? Could you have made your points without the use of those words? I’d say yes, but i know you dont agree. We’ve discussed this before.
Someone refusing to engage with dialogue isn’t cancel culture.
Cancel culture is where a discussion is brought and opinions relating to that discussion are erased/ignored to make it seem they don’t exist. As far as I’m aware an individual speaker in a public forum does not have the power to enforce this, rather it’s a mods thing.
Where posters are flagged by others because their opinion is unpopular or disliked and thus their reply hidden, that’s an example, yes. An individual poster cannot impose that standard though.
As said above, unless I’m reading it wrong, Bag advocates for bans only where the speech violates CoC or isn’t constructive, only destructive.
To call this cancel culture is akin to calling chucking a lawyer out of a courtroom cancel culture because they can’t cross examine the witness without making irrelevantly nasty remarks about the defendant whilst doing so. It’s perfectly reasonable to do this because it serves no purpose in structured debate other than to sling mud which is why it can be considered contempt of court.
Holding speakers to a certain standard of expectations in civility and then expelling them if they violate it is not cancel culture, and this goes for both sides of a debate. Where someone is expelled for their views alone under the pretence they’re being uncivil, that is.
The 2 have nothing to do with each other.
Come back when you’ve read my posts and comprehended what I’ve said and I might consider commenting, or I might just spend my time doing something worthwhile.
As it is your whole post is based on untruths and is therefore irrelevant.
You question people’s mentality when you tell me to
Jump off a building
You wanted to "correct " me
I was wasting the air you breathe
You post fake screenshot accusing people of doing sick things to children .
You even admitted to breaking forum rules and posting on a 2nd account when your first was banned .
So if i was you i would think yourself very lucky i did not call the police the night you told me to kill myself and you wanted to abuse me .
You are a person without morals a person without empathly your sole joy is to hurt and trigger people .
You even think its funny alongside Retributer that deaths threats are fun and “drama” you should be ashamed very ashamed of how you treat people .
So spare me the “i have done nothing wrong” you are a bully just like Retributor nothing more to be said .
They should just remove politics and other real world topics by default, this isn’t the place for them.
Blizzard’s vaulted “Code of Conduct” is, unfortunately, quite useless, focused more on censoring 70% of English language rather than doing anything against real offenders who do nothing but troll and insult.
People swear. I think it was actually proven that people who swear are actually generally more honest than those that try to pretty up their bile.
Someone dedicated 200 posts to witch hunting people for, quite frankly, absurd reasons only SJWs can navigate, yet a person using a swear word is banned from forum instead. It just gives a VERY STRANGE MESSAGE out.
It’s a game where you torture and kill people, cut off their heads, ears, hands or other bodyparts, commit genocide in nearly every zone, yet SWEARING IS THE SUPREME EVIL. I don’t know how this game even maintains PG13 rating with it’s content. Would be much better as 16+ or even better 18+.
Pillows and walk away! Not worth it!
Actually they do.
This isn’t something done without the participation of both parties. Or are you implying that the majority are unable to control themselves and their only option is to go with the flow and get angry over the respective subjects?
Not only that but you called for a serious punishment.
A lifetime ban and being put on display. Pretty hardcore. Again, over something that is as trivial as a difference of opinion.
If those opinions are so inflammatory to you then that’s what the ignore function is for. But you already stated your opinion on that.
So I’m finding quite a few things wrong with your statements, which has quite an extreme tendency to them, so I’m not certain what untruths you are talking about.
I don’t try to antagonize people. If you would payed attention to my forum history, but if you want, just look in this thread, always my first comment in a thread is as much non-antagonizing possible. If you read my first comment in this thread, you would see a proper comment, where i didn’t antagonized nobody and i just gaved my opinion.
But…what happened next was the result of this “my way or the highway” culture that exist in this forum. And i just exemplified this in my previous comment. So a person comes, says a lot of crap and then when confronted, he refuse or avoids to answer. And yes…those are the people i antagonize. Because they deserve. If they could answer properly, nobody would be antagonized by me.
Can you specifiy the exact quota where i “found comedy” in a streamers suicide? Just a simple request : copy/paste. Can you show me that example?
I am pretty sure i didn’t “found comedy” in his death, but i give you the chance to prove the opposite.
Yes it was. Sorry to be so blunt.
Maybe…but i also wanted to share what i think about him (the poster) and his idea. The same thing they can do with me. Call me childish, stupid, ridiculous, i don’t mind. As long you don’t insult me directly with harsh words (flop, flap, you know what i mean), you can call me whatever you want. That’s the privilege of freedom.
This:
And this:
Are not the same thing?
Maybe i’m blind and i can’t see it well…
So, basically you say that if someone refuses to reply me (on the topic that that someone started) is not cancel culture, because cancel culture is someone who ignores to talk with me about a topic that he started.
Do you see the conflict in both statements? xD
I repeat: i didn’t said that (jump off the building) . I said : " do the right thing" . If that is what you understood, it’s not my fault.
Ohhh …here we go again…get over it? It happened almost 2 months ago?
Well, my cats would totally disagree with you. 
Bully because i debunk your ridiculousness (and your friends also) ? That’s why?
Yeah…nice example of total irony.
i just gonna drop that “the old days on xbox-live” meme here, those people would have gotten pulverized back then
I should get over being threatened with abuse from you ? you actually wanted to hit me face to face irl .
I should just get over being told to kill myself ?
You do not debunk anything you just attack and wish harm unto others .
You do not even deny about the sick fake screenshot or posting on another account to attack a person again just because you got banned .
don’t make me come put on my mum voice!
I am irl friends with Daestra she knows I am just teasing before anyone gets offended on her behalf!!
i will do as you ask of me 
tbh tbh, i just wanna read about wow lol
He’s already both proven & admitted that he isn’t going to stop, so report any posts he makes that is breaking the forums(which is most of them) and hope Blizzard picks up the pace.
They are not the same, an individual is an individual, a speaking space is a speaking space. Describing one individuals decision to ignore me as cancel culture is nonsensical because without the context of a speaking space, it means nothing.
I shout at an old lady on the street. She ignores me. Cancel culture? I think not.
You heading into a space that has the pretense of hosting views about X topic and begin to talk about Y topic and are ignored? Cancel culture? Nope. You’re not expanding the topic.
You head into a public space where topic X is being discussed and you discuss topic X in a way that is unpopular or disliked and whilst doing so are being antagonistic and uncivil with other speakers more so than you’re presenting your views, and are thrown out? Cancel culture? Hard to say, because you could say you’ve been chucked out because you’re undermining the spirit of discussing in good faith.
You head into a public space where topic X is being discussed and you discuss topic X in a way that is unpopular or disliked and whilst doing so are being completely civil with other speakers, and are thrown out? Cancel culture? Absolutely.
I think where our wires are crossing is I see an individual speaker ignoring your query as simply bad play on their part (excepting you’re not being hostile or antagonistic towards them, because nobody has a right of reply if they can’t formulate their speech in a civil manner and should not expect one), but where the situation they’re speaking in endorses them ignoring the reply even if it’s civilly phrased then I’d call it cancel culture.
Just to be clear I think even in the individual situation if someone is simply soliciting a view that agrees with their own and ignores those of others providing they’re civilly phrased I consider that entering into a discussion in bad faith and it’s not something I consider great. Where this individual tendency congregates into more public speaking spaces, then I call it cancel culture. So my disagreement with you is largely one of semantics I’d say. Both tendencies have no place in areas or instances labelling themselves as places of discussion in my opinion.