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[Perroy-argent-dawn (Perroy)]

@Bragi-argent-dawn

You can’t cherrypick the least of their offences and pretend that’s what I’m referring to when I’m saying “harassment”. It wasn’t just that they said his name was bad, it was that it made him a bad stupid person who should feel bad.

It is the entirety of their offenses. They called his name bad + some said they could report it + they called him names based on his goofy replies

@Bragi-argent-dawn

I’ve been pretty clear on what I’m defining - “harassment” - and the terms in which it’s been defined - “insulting, demeaning, mocking, belittling and intimidating”, so I don’t know why you keep reverting to “saying his name was bad”.

Yeah I’m basically cool with all but the last bit (within reason, obviously - nothing below board like doxxing &c) honestly and I don’t consider “I can report you!” to be some bone-chilling sentence

Again, with this in mind I think your definition is whack - harassment implies something much, much harsher than “ur dumb” and implies that it is sustained over a long period of time. Now, if the people (for who I am responsible in that thread) then began to repeatedly contact Rabies IG, I would be very unhappy with them - because that would be what I consider harassment

@Bragi-argent-dawn

based and polite-pilled

Well, I’m a good Christian boy

@Bragi-argent-dawn

But the meaning of those words is already linked. They share synonyms in persecution, intimidation, pressure, etc. They are compatible species. It’s not an unnatural abomination I’m creating like a Liger, it’s a lovable mongrel like a Labradoodle

I think you are stretching your creative license in a big way. You can just say “I think it’s lame to be rude” and you would be making the same point and we would be on the same page

@Bragi-argent-dawn

nihilist: someone who rejects all religious and moral principles in the belief that [the forums] are meaningless

Well, I really don’t like doxxing as a forum argument tactic - this I have kicked someone for before in the past / think that people should focus on calling each other’s internet personas lame instead of that

Beyond that, sure. It’s not too important

@Bragi-argent-dawn

I think calling someone dumb is unkind, and I think saying it repeatedly is unnecessary and even more unkind

Agree up to this point. Something doesn’t need to be necessary for it to be something I won’t shake someone down for

@Bragi-argent-dawn

I feel like you’re only describing half of the picture.

Yeah I don’t feel that and I think that even if ten people tell you your name sucks (after you make that the focus of the topic) it’s not a game changer

@Bragi-argent-dawn

I don’t think it’s the same thing. When you’re reframing things, you’re not representing them in full - you’re offering partial or in some cases actual misrepresentations of what happened, and so you’re excluding in your definition anything inconvenient to your position.

Nah I don’t agree

@Bragi-argent-dawn

t’s not accurate to say that they were only protesting his name - that was a part of it, but they were also criticising him, and doing so repeatedly, in mocking and belittling posts.

Yet it began based on name + OOC guild until they were given a reason to call him dumb. Have you considered that so many people (many of which were not related to the PCU, as you must have by now discovered) began to say the same thing? Maybe some of his posts genuinely gave that impression

@Bragi-argent-dawn

The mentality I’m critiquing here is best represented by eager young PCU cadet Crowton (in another thread entirely)

(another thread entirely) aka. nice but unrelated

Also since it’s related to Vaxir I think Crowton’s post is based. They will be repaid in their own coin for all time until they type “sorry perroy”

@Bragi-argent-dawn

The entire premise of their derailment was that he’d broken the ToS, which he hadn’t, as many reasonable arguments in the thread proved - so, IF they weren’t ruled against (which could be, as you said earlier, due to a lack of moderation) - he certainly wasn’t either, proving they’d no grounds to go after him.

Maybe they thought his name was bad and then thought his replies were worse

@Bragi-argent-dawn

Almost like a man who believes in what he’s saying. I’m repeating myself because there seems to be a fundamental disagreement about the nature of events which alas I am unable to resolve to my satisfaction.

There’s no point playing a broken record - I don’t agree with your definitions and I won’t agree with them

@Bragi-argent-dawn

So I agree that the debate at this point is redundant and circular.

Yep

@Bragi-argent-dawn

Actually, no - and I’ll admit I’m wrong here. You can’t be responsible for people outside of the PCU. It’s just hard to tell who’s outside the PCU when, say, a person like Vixi - an ex-member - is riding in the same bandwagon (over poor Rabies) with a bunch of actual members

I can’t help being so deeply charismatic that random people back me up in forum arguments

@Bragi-argent-dawn

unhappy with this arrangement

Well, if it makes you feel any better I can’t remove yours either

@Bragi-argent-dawn

… which officer? I showed you mine, you show me yours -

I played a corporal called “Cogs” (gnome mage) and way later I played a gnome warrior sergeant though I honestly don’t remember his name - it was a character I didn’t invest very much time into because I didn’t enjoy the RP at the time. I think the name was “Dobber” maybe …

@Bragi-argent-dawn

oh.
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Alas