Why just not make game free to play once and for all?
its not like the content/patches/balances justifies the 13 euro a month.
At this point blizzard is just milking people with content that was developed years ago by developers that are not in blizzard anymore (classic ,tbc ).
and shadowlands is …well you know…BAD.
so why not make the game free to play once and for all,and make a store like all mmos that died like wow (lineage 2 etc)
Because all free2play games are mostly pay to win… But I agree, my friends are not playing or dont even want to try game because it is kinda expensive compared to other games…Especially MMO genre is not that popular atm as FPS games are - and alot FPS games are free2play now.
Game balance feels awful, at least in 1v1 / 2v2 scenarios / RBGs
But I love Shadowlands compared to WoD (where I stopped playing WoW before)
Mate,thats the thing,wow is also pay to win inside pay to play,thats why i asked to remove the 13 euro.
Anything end game you want here you can pay . And the support is way less that when wow was actually a good adventure.
I agree with you mate.
Im unsubbing until new raid/PvP balances are out. 
Game feels pretty dead, only 3 Alliance players are outside of Stormwind If I want to world PvP, and kinda always same people in durotar dueling…Raiding feels boring because of gear disbalance, and PvP LFG is pretty much 5x more dead than 1 month ago.
and also,by having the token blizzard still makes a lot of money besides the “normal” 13 euro subscription.
theres nothing to justify it now,maybe the art design,only.
The audio,the emersion,the balance,the testing,the tuning,the little zones like fortnite maps everything seems to lack quality and immaginnation for a good immersive gaming experience.
But how will they be able to pay those insane bonuses to this lunatic above there then?
dunno, he’s old, almost 60, maybe he’ll step down finally… or you know… unsub…
cough cough wow token cough
The P2P requirements stopping mindless children spam the game all day, Gold Spammers, New account creation spamming, P2W Features such as directly buying gear from the ingame store. and the Even further Decline of Quality… are all good reasons to pay 13 euro a month.
go play a F2P game… please, u clearly never have… this isnt even NEAR f2p Quality… F2P quality is FAR lower.
P.S Alot of what u statre is highly subjective… and matybe more a time for u to quit the game instead of pushing it to “change pay models”.
If u dont like the game, simply unsub. thats the loudest u can be to a coperate company. Talk with ur Money and remove ur sub. if enough people drop blizzard will be forced to do something. its that simple.
I think boosting shouldn’t be permitted in the rated content, but that is just my opinion.
I play games for 31 years what you think?
The quality is the same,or even lower for wow atm.
Dota, LoL, PoE, Fortnite, etc.
WoW p2win and somewhow f2play game with tokens. But they doing a great value with army of bots. Bots got banned, they they buy new account, buy for all bots lvl up for 50 lvl and then they ban them again. Also there still army of slaves who buy sub even if they litterally frustrtating about state of the WoW and always will be, cuz can’t quit the game. Even if they don’t play they 90% will buy store mount with 6 months sub.
Now we both know Ur being disingenuous.
As I stated. Ur opinons are subjective. So maybe it’s time u quit.
Why not go play one of the F2p games if their quality is so much better??
I’m obviously talking Mmorpgs.
Mobas and things like that generally always use F2p methods. But mmorpgs tried it at a point and they all flopped immediately.
There are already sharks below him with empty pockets, if anything things would go worse.
Much worse.
Maybe I’m dense, but how is WoW pay to win, exactly?
He’s talking about how you get gear from boosts.
Few tokens and you’re 226 which is equal to pay to win in my opinion as the real money ends up in the pockets of Blizzard.
Not only gear. You can buy any achi and other stuff, even much better players to play with. Everything. Ofc no1 forced you to pay, u still can tryhard/grind, but how it working in any Korean MMORPG, why u need this if u can just pay.
Let’s be honest, the only reason they get away with the sub is because it has been a thing since its initial release.
I have to say that it becomes increasingly more difficult to find the sub worth it. I know that the sub doesn’t guarantee anything, but it does higher the expectations. And those expectations are currently not met.
The biggest issue by now is probably Classic, when it comes to scrapping the subscription.
So yea, perhaps they should get rid of it…