Free to play wow?

the thing is we keep the expantions problems into next expansion,w/o fixing any,and just stacking them.untill you have shadowlands.

Instead of just reboot the story w/e and make a expantion with only the good things we have in the past.

The problem is, its a 15 year old game and its aging Worse and Worse year to year… No MMORPG is going to live forever, regardless how good it was Worse. WoW will decline til its Dead thats the nature of the beast. u cant reverse that affect.

The more that play the game, the more that eventually will inevitably get bored of the game, the more game genres come out, the More competition that arrives, the more that population will Split.

Do remember. WoW Killed like 3 MMORPGS upon its launch, not because prior said mmorpgs were bad. but because they were at the time Outdated compared to the modernized things WoW brought.

Well now its WoWs turn. WoW will inevitably keep looking less and less dated… keep stacking problems upon problems, because its a Old game. its a Outdated game. running on tech thats 15 years old and Just mertely continously modified to push it that little bit further.

U cant Reverse Death, u cant Reverse the games Age. u cant Stop WoW Falling.

We are just here, til inevitably a Better MMORPG Launchs. blizzard know that, we know that.

wow is not a dead game,in legion they even invested in changing the engine to dx12 witch i think was a brilliant and unexpected change in the game and most developers would not even dare make such change.

whats dead is the team.not the game.

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Legion still dropped 47% of its inital Launch playerbase in the same time SL did… there were Equal quantities of people unhappy with Legion as there were with SL… as there were with BFA.

its Just simply the Segment of the playerbase unhappy changes with every launch.

Look at the Cata / MoP Figures. the orginal Dev team were losing their flame also. the game was in Permanant Decline.

Nothing u say explains why since WoTLK this Game has Lost Millions Per expansion. Cata lost millions, MoP Lost millions. every Audience its targetted, Every expansion its Launched since WoTLK. has generated millions of lost subs.

At the end of the day. the Moment PvP Orintated Genres became a thing. WoWs Bled, since the orginal trio is over WoW has bled. Its nothing to do with excusing the current game… its just showing statistically this games been dying since WoTLK.

we can bring up DoTA1 etc etc existing before… but they werent as mainstream as League of Legends for example.

an easy way out was make 2 continents like eastern kingdoms and kalimdor with professions that matters etc,a WORLD,not this fortnite maps etc.

balance pvp and make CRAFTING WAR,stop using players to test with beta keys,so noone knows what to do at start of each patch making game mnore adventure than just look in google what to do etc…its easy to change ,you just have to wanna do it :slight_smile:

i find this funny coming from a pvp player since well u guys tend to whine and complain about everything in my opinion SL isn’t that bad bfa was worse , so i disagree with u . i don’t know if u like to play games 24/7 thats ur things and doing useless stuff , SL gave me a sense of freedom bcs i can login when i want to , do what content i want . there has been whiners since tbc so this doesn’t change a thing , and ofc if i start talking about pve u wouldn’t care since ur a pvp player and u wouldn’t give damn about raiding/dungeons/lore. wow is not only pvp u know , so stop talking for the majority of us saying SL is bad . everyone thinks differently and some like the game or dislike it, i see posts like urs that influence ppl to hate on the game . and i suggest u stop

P.S the community is so mixed it doesn’t know what it wants so that’s why blizz never listens to u, no game is truly ever balanced takes games like LOL,DOTA,etc for example why do u think ppl whine about stuff as well this has been the same with every game don’t make wow into smt special bcs it is not

Achievments in this game is not achievments anymore. The first mind for the most of the players if sm1 reach something relevant in the game. Who help him/why he buy it and what broken spec he played thats not fixed for months. Its a f2p game with p2win model.

I dont beleive it is. Cataclysm never retained Players, MoP didnt retain players, WoD Defintly didnt, Legion didnt, BFA didnt, SL Didnt.

they’ve targetted every market. they’ve tried swapping dev teams, they tried making the game more casual, they’ve tried caterign the game to 5man content. they’ve tried catering the game to Raiding.

Now they’re at a point where they cannot launch a single thing without 50% of the playerbase being angry.

This game has too many inidividuals Dedicated to Specific Content, no one plays WoW for WoW anymore. its because a Specific content in the game.

U get

M+ Players.
Raiders
PvPers.
Crafters
Gold farmers.
Old content runners.

and while some players bleed into other Catagories at times its normall due to incentivising said content. no one plays WoW to play WoW anymore. if FFXIV Launched a M+ System tomorrow. theres a good chance i’d try it… and if i preferred it i’d leave WoW.

the same as if Ashes of Creation prove successful im sure alot of PvPers will do the same thing.

im not pvp player,has you can see my progress in pve,…idk where you got the pvp player from XD this my main btw.do a bit of everything .

because ur posting in the arena forums

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true true doesnt mean im ā€œpvp playerā€ā€¦

well u did post this on arena forums were most pvp community hangs around so ,look the point is man i am tired of seeing these posts , i don’t hate classic nor retail ,i like both genuinely as a whole game . but this has to stop, why would blizz listen to a toxic community that i repeat are at each others throats and constantly harrasing devs

That’s an old description.
Few years back people got mad at Blizzard’s Hearthstone because they released a new expansion every 3 months with over 100 cards each, all of them were expensive to craft and required you to either win 30 games a day for a longer period of time or pay 40 euros for 40 or 50 packs containing 5 cards that could also be duplicates of eachother giving you a small amount of dust (craft reagent).
Because of this HS got labeled as P2W.
The same applies to the current wow situation. You can try and grind everything in weeks OR pay 2-3 tokens and get your gear and rating in a day and later upgrade it with honor.
Time is money.

How can Bobby fire more ppl and buy more planes/boats if wow is free to play? Think pls…

Imagine all the problems PVP and even PVE people have in this game right now when it and IF becomes free…

That would mean problems 10x worse

I remember when WoW literally had 0 bugs. But I guess there must been always bugs probably - but minor…Now you join arenas, priest MC me and I get DC - like often DCs. My partner was stucked on spawn of arenas, that’s what my camera show…Priest MC makes players to lag, not to mention that. ETC
Tons of players stopped playing on private servers, because retail felt save and without bugs, now I feel like I am paying for private server quality. Not even less latency on retail, it’s same.

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WTF can be worse then this? Have you played SL recently? LOL

There is some truth. Now private servers have better PvP system, mb less bugs and even motivated players to play. I know few servers thats give $ prizes to TOP ladder players. Kekw

I do play SL atm…
All i can tell you, from my own personal XP when ESO went free everything was ruined.
From customer support?
From bugs?
From latency?

everything went 10x worse

But thats wow now, we got no customer support they gonan fire more, check wowhead . Bugs we literaly have so many bugs from emeni fear to deathsentence condemn MC bug etc etc. Latency, 2-3 dayss ago all servers crash, i f u want to do any world content even world boss u can barely play in the area, world pvp? KEKW
So again, what can be worse we are at the points u just mentioned