Argument about what? That some people want “No chances” not to just have the original game but to have the original exploits?
Try again.
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Yeah i like to see changes.
i just believe it’s not 100% beneficial to completely remove world buffs from raiding since there is a solution to satisfy both buffers and non buffers.
as for the rest of my points (like boosting rmt and exploits) it is just common sense.
That’s Blizzard unique decision for this FRESH. Some private server did it but more common is to disable them for the first month of a tier. How it will play out in SoM we shall see.
i also understand that. disabling them for one season does not mean that they will disable them for the seasons to come. next season could be some other theme like perma world buffs and increased loot. reminds me of diablo seasonal themes. we will see i guess…
Seasons can only work if they change the experience and make it fresh and different
SoM1 has changed some things to try and trick people into thinking it will be a new experience to what they got in 2019
SoM2 who knows what they’ll come out with
Biggest issue they have here is I don’t think seasons work for a MMO. I don’t know who wants to keep having their character deleted and unless the 0-60 levelling experience is changed every season, it will be stale AF
They don’t for a MMO but Classic is just Classic. Plus players on private servers kill existing realm soon as fresh launched. Seasons is just Blizzard name for private server FRESH and people will roll on it level up, do some stuff then quit and roll next FRESH. Over and over again. Classic Era died and when/if they make SoM Era realm it will die out as well just because next FRESH (it’s bit of a meme).
I have the same problem.i contact support via ticket and all they said was uninstall battle net.which obvious didn’t solve it.i created ptr accounts and i am not seeing ptr option in battlenet…
Here is the post that explains how to get into the beta, it worked for me, hopefully also for you.
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yes! thank you that helped.i needed to have a starter account at the region i have the active account.weird as i dont want starter account since i have active game time.
It also felt strange to me to get a starter account, but for no other reason than pressing that button i have no feeling that the account that i log into is my own account. Same username and password, just another pictogram on my desktop for the beta.
The best of luck and maybe if you enjoy it, try out the R2R hardcore challenge 
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It is possible SoM will suffer the same fate as “fresh” private servers did. Because it adopts the same philosophy and caters to the same kinds of players.
Remember “darrowshire” ? Already on the decline. The lifespan of a fresh p-serv is 3 to 6 months, because it targets people who only like the initial experience (the feeling of seeing dozens of lvl 1 run around). It’s a subset of MMO playerbase ; a tiny subset actually. And they flock from new servers to new servers.
It is not a steady playerbase to design for.
This said, as SoM costs zero dollar to develop (must have been what? a handful of design meetings and some intern work to wire the new server), even if it attracts 1 player it is already profitable. Laziness at its peak ; managing decline instead of aiming to become once again the leader of the field.
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You nailed it there.
Although I’d broaden it a little. That “restart” group actually consist of two type of players, people that don’t have much gametime and can never keep up with the curve anyway and a mixture of speedrunners/levelers that quit/restart once hitting a trivial milestone.
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Yeah and apparently blizzard has identified this duality you talk about. Because the “fresh” part is aimed at the first group, while the changes and 1-year format is thought to cater to the second group.
What I don’t understand is : the removal of WB seems to contradict the idea it is tailored for speedrunners too and not just 2-monthers. Did blizzard misunderstood feedback because most real invested players are quiet and don’t post on social media? (I started posting when I stoped playing on official lmao)
Or perhaps they see the removal of WB as a concession made to ignite 2-monthers engagement (it seems to work as we see a lot of excited pandas for this product)
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Prior to Classic there were long lasting servers. Nowadays playing on the old client on a much lower pop server is questionable. I was on K2 when it was way after Naxx and K3 when it launched and progressed. Started with like 6K peak ended with like 2-3K peak. They are on the market for many years. There even will be K4 soon paradoxically.
They aim at blizzlike with few changes - WB disabled for the first month of a tier, 5g respec cost cap, more strict item progression or debuff slots (8 on start etc.) and they were quite successful. Sweatlords from LH hated them due to “hunter incident” but that’s another story 
You are not talking about what we were talking about.
I was on nostalgeek for years and it also is a steady blizzlike p-serv with thousands players. It is still strong today.
We were talking about fresh p-servers which do not aim the same public than steady p-servers.
There is a lot of fun servers. Mostly a cashgrab or scam. Turtle is allegedly successful but nowadays vs initial idea is way different. There is MoP Spanish one that has like 2+ custom expansion on top it and is super hot in South America.
Still you are off topic my panda friend.
YES, is hard !!!
Why? Because if new Blizzard dev team make Classic Vanilla in right way with difficulty of first patches and with FIXES mentioned above, Quality of Life things and newer Graphics from actual Classic…
That game will be much more interesting, challenging and better in many ways then Shadowlands…
Results = New dev team easily can be fired from Blizzard because old devs were better
Fresh in the way as announced as Vanilla race/rush 1 year game is dead from one minute after official announce, there is no sense to play MMORPG which need time to build and to do continuous micromanagement on our characters in the way where we need to rush in silly race to be “the best”.
And after all - wipe server (eventualy TOP names will be in some Hall of Fame) - LoL
Who need that ???
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