From Dreadmist to Deadmist or what happens when a PvP-server is horde-only?

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My name is Tremor and I am an officer of the guild, Iddqd , which has been part of the Dreadmist horde community since day one of WoW Classic.

Today marks a new era on our realm. The final Alliance guild, Infinity Loop, is no longer with us. Apart from the unaffiliated scraggly individuals that may still roam the streets of what must be eerie-AF Stormwind and Ironforge, this now makes Dreadmist, EU as close to a 100% horde-side only realm. The irony is that we are listed as a PvP Server. The only people we fight now are ourselves when debating whether or not to follow suit in what has virtually been an exodus of guilds leaving the server during the last 4-6 weeks. Initially, it was drip drip drip, but now we are bleeding guilds and cherished community people en masse, and we have no way of stopping it. The absurdity of being a pvp server while having noone to fight hits the head on the nail:

Something needs to be done about this situation. Or is this working as intended?

The daily life on a low-population server is quite frankly not the optimal way to play the game. We are struggling to fill pugs for even normal dungeons, the server economy is starting to get skewed, recruiting new people for raid rosters is getting increasingly difficult, and all in all, there is just no life left. The chats are dead. The zones are empty. World bosses are left alive to mock the random passers-by. Is this working as intended?

We hear and read about Blizzard employees and higher-ups alike claiming that they wake up in the morning to provide one of the best gaming experiences to a loyal community of gamers and fans of the franchise. But I am not seeing it now. I am seeing neglect. I am seeing a game in free fall. On my server.

I do see full servers on the server list, and I am certain that there is room for me and my guildmembers too, if we were only to pay up for paid server transfers. But we are probably not going to. We are, so to speak, aggressively staying. Even when slowly dying to asphyxiation. You are choking us out, Blizzard.

But I like my community. I like the ones who remain behind. I like a lot of the people who left. But with the continous neglect and unwillingness to act to preserve vulnerable communities like ours, we are disintegrating completely, and the sense of community that we came back to the OG to partake in once again and bring to life once again is withering away. One would say that we already have. As I am writing this post, this call for help, yet another four top-guilds are in the process of moving or are considering it seriously. They probably will move soon, and the community is even worse for wear.

Blizzard, I am calling you out (But do you care?)! Help us by offering free character transfers or by merging server communities to give oxygene to what will surely be ghost-servers. Stay true to your vision and revitalize what is about to whither away in the face of your absent community-shepherding.

My own history on your website has me knowing and proving that I was once part of free character transfers in the OG. If you were providing this service then, why are you not doing it now? How are you failing to realise the goodwill you gain from saving the communities instead of bleeding us out?

And let me reiterate: As a horde shaman, not even casting farsight will allow me to see any alliance anymore…they have ceased to exist. My reason for being has been removed.

A gravely concerned fan of the franchise for more than 15 years. Help us.

/Tremor

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I miss good ol’ Dadmist. My orc hunter was there for a long time before it became a mono-faction server.

Forever in my heart.

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It’s the latter, Blizzard have never cared about population or it’s balance.

You should also move this post to the TBC forums.

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Server transfer is a feature that should be used for individuals or small groups to transfer to a different server. Not for people just to keep playing the game because the server is (almost) dead. Blizzard needs to fix these dead servers, communities (guilds and realms) are being torn apart. We need open server transfers, I seem to recall we used to have those in vanilla ? Dreadmist is in a really tough state right now and it needs solving, it’s way late for intervention.

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Well written/said!

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Yepp, been here since the start and Dreadmist got the short end of the stick, about 20% of pop left this reset and are now down to about 10 guilds.

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Do you have any solution that won’t force players to do something?

The only one I can see is connecting realms. Anything else would force players into a situation they won’t stand for.

Free transfers off the realm? Not something Blizzard do.

Free transfers to the realm? People won’t do it.

Forced faction balance by login? Prepare for a revolt.

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At least a sign of goodwill. Addressing the existence of the issue. You now, not flat out ignoring it.

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Earthshaker will soon follow. Emigrants fleeing away every day.

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Not just the alliance player are gone but also 90% of the active horde players are gone! the server has no pug and no economy! in some hours, there is more bots present on the server than the actual players :frowning: yeah low pop servers has some benefits for some players but we didn’t choose a super low population server as a player in the beginning! it was a medium sized healthy server with a lot of good guild and a lot of nice players.

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I have 7 alliance characters on deadmist, including this one. I rerolled to Gandling horde for tbc and now both deadmist and Gandling are 1 faction pve servers :weary: Gandling had a healthy horde pop for a while but 2/3 of them are gone now. I rolled on a pvp server to actually have pvp.

I’m only hanging around for a fresh now. I’d rather just abandon all my characters than pay a penny to move any of them. Blizzard have farmed enough money in transfers to the detriment of people who won’t pay. They won’t fix any of the population issues and won’t stop charging people to keep server hopping.

Paid transfers should never have been added, but Bobby and yachts etc.

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Acknowledging there is a problem is the first step, and that would be a nice start from blizzard.
The only thing they seem to have done is make it cheaper to transfer, and this feels short term gains for blizzard, rather than the long view of seeing that hundreds/thousands of subscriptions are in the balance.

I have no desire to transfer, or start again elsewhere, I think ultimately if it comes to it I would cancel my subs and use the time i put into WoW for something else. I feel there a many other subscribers who are in the same boat.

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This is why I don’t get when people are like “Just transfer lol”
The whole reason of a PvP realm is to be able to PvP others.
But if the other faction completely outnumbers the other faction and griefs/prevents them from doing anything at all, they’ll just end up transferring or quitting.

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Hear, hear.

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There is no guarentee that merges will actually improve your situation, if the other realms are just like yours. Horde has always been very popular in pvp, I somehow doubt you would actually find a full Ally realm anywhere right now.

And transfers, it would only make the situation worse, as all Horde would join you, simply because dominating a faction is fun for some or many.

Your best bet is to make a post like this one, polite and friendly like you are. Ask Ally players to start reroll projects on your realm, maybe forge a truce to not attack the low levels, maybe even offer them gold or items that you put into the BB AH.

I just dont see what Blizzard could do except opening a new pvp realm, where you can only create a char on the faction with less players. But this is tricky, as it can cause friends to become seperated.

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That may sound like the best idea but it isn’t, that would be making an ingame suggestion, I don’t think things like this are passed to those who make the decisions.

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