You really think i will invite 610-620 item level when 630 item levels signup for my keys ?
Even when you do not raid if you been playing as much as me you should be least 626 item level right now.
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I just have different standards. I want to inv people on my level, not ones that I am willing to carry. I have enough of those already.
Because people need to argue with extremes.
I can tolerate many people but if my goal is to push keys then I met only 1 guy so far. If pugs had so many people to offer with similar skill level, we wouldnât even need a âfriend listâ or community in the first place.
So? You think because itâs a video game you are unable to use your time and effort otherwise? Obviously you could.
Yet putting time and effort in a video is somehow expected but you donât value it??? So do you value your time and your effort now or you donât at all? You canât have it both ways.
Then donât call them friends. Call it your extended LFG list 
How can you said your read it and understood it when literally your claim was that I am not getting added? You de factor failed to understand it or wrote non-sense on purpose.
Also, I am not using the friend list wrong, I understood long ago that itâs nothing but an extended LFG list, it just doesnât change the fact that I only met one guy who I did add.
Wdym who cares? What is this question??? I mean⌠dude for real⌠like⌠did you even read?
If you donât understand this basic comment then I have no clue why we are even talking in the first place lolâŚ
Ye, right⌠letâs just all get 3k rio so we can play content made for 2k rio players. This solves everything⌠When you come with stuff like this, I am really asking myself if you actually understand the core point at all.
And this makes sense in your head? Blizzard fails at something and your suggestions is to tell everyone to get much more rio than required to play low content? Did you think 5 seconds longer about this idea? What happens if everyone listens to your solution and just does it? We will be literally facing the exact same issue. The only difference is gonna be the number, while the nothing is fixed. What are you gonna suggest then? Everyone should get 3,5k rio instead of 3k to do 2k rio content??? I mean⌠and then? Do you really donât see how this circle would just continue?
It literally doesnât matter. It is and was always like that and probably will remain this way.
Technically you donât need to be bad to die while dying does not make you bad either. Not long ago we had a healer leaving because he somehow thought he would be boosting. We did SV, after second boss with 4 people in time.
Whatever you say. Outta hundreds of keys youâve only met one person on your level!
Totally realistic and not at all arrogant.
/Looks at score⌠oh yea 2718, (But the baddie pugs are holding you back!)
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See? I am not even allowed to have standards and speak those out. When I do you already canât handle it. What would happen if we have a discussion about a fail? (mechanics in a key) You think someone that sensitive would be able to take valid criticism without insta leaving?
Take a close look when I did my +11 keys.
MOTS 3 weeks ago, average ilevel 627.9
Stonevault 2 weeks ago, average ilevel 626
ARAK 2 weeks ago, average ilevel 626.8
Is this meant to be you far ahead of the curve? A reality check is truly good players blew past 11âs 6 weeks ago.
I think youâre just being unrealistic about your skill compared to others.
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All around ~3 weeks but you can say 2 if you wish.
Truly good players with a pre-made group? Sure. So what?
The reality is that according to rio I am at the top 4% Rdruids in EU while pugging and not playing for 2-3 weeks. Yet if I say I want to play with people on my level, you already call me arrogant. Now imagine what would happen if we would play together. You are already being mad and every word I would say, regardless how valid it is, youâd view as toxic and could not listen. Even if I was right and my idea to handle a specific tactic would be correct.
The thing is simply that I said I have standards and want to play with specific people and I am not adding everyone left and right. I didnât say how high their skill has to be. You instantly got hostile and mad at me, trying to attack me. And ye⌠what do you base your statement on? You think my performance would equal the majority of pugs? If that was the case, we would all pug just fine and not needed our âfriends listâ. The reality proves otherwise tho.
Iâm disagreeing with you. Iâm not âhostile and madâ. There is a difference you know.
I took it of what the website said, I didnât audit the dates.
Didnât you basically call me delusional and arrogant because I had only one guy I would have added?
Correct me if I am wrong but how exactly can you âdisagreeâ on facts and reality? You didnât like the fact that I only had one guy I wanted to add, no?
I mean, if you are going to be hyperbolic then yeah, people are going to call you out.
The guy you would have added was probably far ahead of your skill level and stood out, while those on your level didnât really make an impression out of you.
itâs normal of course but not exactly realistic to say that there was just 1 guy out there worth adding.
I didnât call you delusional. I said some of your behaviour was arrogant. I stand by that. âOnly one person in more than 500 has met my exacting standards for a viedo game!â How is that anything other than arrogant?
Because youâre insinuating that only one player met those standards. Clearly not a fact or reality. Itâs full of bias. ^^Like was said above.
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We do not care who you add or do not add to your friend list, you just act being so far ahead of everyone, which is just funny to see, but it just comes over as stubborn to the solutions provided in this tread. If you feel to good to play with other people, than you are stuck with the PuG system and miss out on the loads of fun you can have by making friends and playing with a stable group.
But also that is fine, your âfacts and realityâ is just interesting to see.
Its the same discussion we had before solo shuffle got implemented, and it will have the same results. People complain that they cant get into groups, and claim that they dont care how long they have to wait - as long as they get to play. A queue system gets implemented. Healers (and tanks in m+) realize that there is no reason for them to use that system. DPS complain that they have to sit in hour long queues, and ask for changes.
There is already enough ways to get into keys quick and easy as dps. Apply for keys that you are qualified for, and be smart about what keys you apply for. If you are a class that doesnt bring lust or a brez, you are better off joining a community or run your own keys.
Theres no point implementing a system that splits the playerbase, without anybody actually benefitting from it.
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I am not hyperbolic here, I literally state facts. I had only one guy who I added who met my requirements and was able to push keys.
Interesting assumption. And how do you measure it?
The reality is that he had an irl friend who was a Rdruid as well but not able to heal higher keys at that time. This was the reason why we played together. His main goal was to play with his friends but at that time they were all not able to go as high as he could.
Being unrealistic about my skill is not being delusional? I thought thatâs exactly what it means.
And how is that arrogant? Are you truly saying that the majority of pugs is able to push high keys and meets the requirements? If thatâs the case, why donât people just pug it?
Meanwhile, you ignore that my requirements are not solely based on skill level. It obviously requires the ability to play together and specific times. But this simple fact didnât even cross your mind, which is why I said you are being mad and hostile. You interpreted my comment based on how you felt, not based on what I said.
Even if we were only speaking about skill. You disagree about my runs, my experience and my standards based on what exactly? Based on how you feel and think what experience I made?
If you feel and think a certain way, itâs probably true and if I do that itâs unrealistic and arrogant? I mean⌠at this point I will always end up in a lose-lose scenario because by this rule I am always in the wrong, no?
I am not acting this way, I am just pointing out basic maths. When I was pushing, the player pool was simply small. Itâs a mathematical fact, not an opinion.
Ok, let me throw your logic at you. Why are you not playing with your friends, having a lot of fun and push keys? Itâs super easy to find people who play at the same time as you, have the same goals and are around your skill level, right?
Maybe you are looking for your âMDI championsâ in the wrong place? Regular pugging never was a good ideaâŚor heck even a viable idea to pug really high keys(way way above the max vault key level) and it was mostly done by premades. This is not TWW specific but has been like this sinceâŚI dont know, since mid legion when m+ was introduced?
You donât go into LFR and expect to find CE material players there either?
If you are looking for 3k+ +14/+15s and above pushers then its very unlikely you will find any of them in a pug scene. Most of them are running with premades anyway.
But I am not looking for MDI champions? What exactly makes you assume this?
I am aware of the fact.
Which is why I said that I basically didnât meet anyone while pugging. You seem to agree yourself that itâs not easy to find good players while pugging to push high keys. Now add the factor of being able to play at the same times.
Desperate has some derp takes at times but I agree in a way.
Thereâs no personal skill barrier to entry to M+. Bad players unable to cc, interrupt, Dr unavoidable damage, soothe, dispel etc shouldnât even be in keys in the first place. At very least the most they can do is say 10.
We need a solo test of skill, like proving grounds were but much harder. Pugging would become 10x as good. You know that people would have a certain amount of skill. Not been boosted
In what world is this fair? If I happen to only like that specific class but am limited because it has no BL, CR or dispels, or anything else fancy that a Retribution Paladin has, how is it possible that the only solution to fix this problem is to start my own keys or look for people who want to form a team (which is less likely, as why would they when other classes offer BL, CR, or dispels)?
Are you actually thinking about what you write, or are you just posting randomly?
The only right solution is clearly to put those classes without much utility on par with the ones that have it, which can be achieved by doing more damage or adding utility to them. I shouldnât have to suffer for picking the âwrongâ class
You were offered lots of things to help but you ignored them all.
In what world is it fair that youâre so entitled you would play a class that brings nothing. Stuff the healer, stuff the group and the M+ chores that need doing.
Itâs not even utility you care about. You want to be top damage and thatâs the only thing you want to contribute lol. Why donât you play a less selfish class