Wtf are these buffs for next week patch? I get 3% overall…meanwhile frost and fire mage get 5% dmg to all skills! Fury needs some heavy buffs. We will still be last place in raid.
i think we just need a bit more damage from annihilator and bleeds, cause it makes too low damage and 15% wont be enough.
also even with execute damage buff, Tier set bonuses are very weak compared to other classes i think, the problem now is that FUry has to pick execute talents also for execute to be viable option…
overall that’s good buffs, but it just makes Fury viable again…
The problem is it will not make fury viable again, because other classes get buffs too and some of them like fire and frost mage are better than ours. So fury still does not rly do more damage and still has no utility and a very weak tier set. I hope for season 2 we will get some love and maybe a tier set…i mean it cant get worst with tier set anymore.
ive started to play smf build spend 900conq for 1h wepon and also 421ilvl wepon from sparks just to notice that smf aint workin and its bugged that talent + lost over 500 rate in arena op what they did to smf fury ( overall fury )
still waiting for a big non CB build buffs…
Did you read this one too?
this buff are not huge, RB is buffed, its not CB…
Those buffs are fkn good. Imagine we’re able to skill AM now.
I guess anni build gonna be lit now. Also with AM we might be able to use revenger in every aoe pack, thats disgusting crazy.
You guys need to check everything instead of CB.
Developers’ notes: Despite a strong start to Season 1, Fury’s performance has fallen behind where we’d like it to be. 10.0.5 will see some minor changes to their talent tree but these are more related to encouraging build diversity than providing more throughput so we’re making some additional changes to help their damage output.
On 10.0.5 they are just trying to buff the unused talent so they’re on par with the already used but underperforming talents.
These changes will not make Fury viable, at all. Because you have to consider they also buff some other underpermorning specs as well.
But they don’t change the tierset, nor the overall gameplay where we only do damage every 1,5min with full cds.
So we’ll just have more build possibilities, just to remain dead last against any other melee, and still no utility.
That’s my issue with the changes too, Blizz are making work of equalizing the benefits of talents, and some shoring up of DPS from skills, but if the timing of fury’s descent down the rankings is anything to go by, the tier set and its lackluster bonuses is the biggest sticking point, yet that goes untouched.
I’m glad that my specific talent spec (SMF Annihilator) is getting buffed, but if they don’t do something about the tier set, that’s like pouring more water into a leaky bucket…
It’s ridiculous how bad Fury is compared even to Arms warrior. It’s like literally doing 50% of Arms DPS
Why you jeallous?
Be happy you get buffs at all…
Fire and Frost were below Fury in both M+ and Raiding scene, it was neccessary.
These buffs won’t even help them at all in Raids.
Maybe Frost in M+ would become descent.
Fire is a lost cause, unless they buff Ignite it doesn’t really matter.
Fury warrior ever since BFA has been a “I do burst every 1.5m” kind off class.
It’s descent for M+ or AOE situations while struggling in ST. That is where Arms shines, in prolongued and consistent damage on ST or Cleave fights.
The spec’s are so far apart playstyle wise, I suggest you try to play both depending what content type you are doing…
True frost is so bad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKOrMlzUrKY
Muck Fanather.
There are plenty off video’s out there that explain the problem off Frost and why it shouldn’t be played in Raid Enviroments (except for Terros).
Everyone can create a full Fotm AOE group and smack in a Frost mage and say “I am nr 1”.
He could do the same with Fury warrior and reach the same rank
Fury has 0 boss damage , also for m+ mages bring utility fury doesn’t. We only do damage at 5 target. I do agree mages need buff but damage profile of all the 3 specs you mentioned basically the same.
This is completely wrong , Bfa fury had both st and aoe sustain. Shadowlands low cd sustain cooldowns. We were never a bursty spec. Only this xpac we get aoe burst while they somehow try to keep the sustain playstyle. This is the saddest version of fury warrior. You neither do sustain or proper burst .
We only do 5 target anything less or more then 5 target is bad for fury. Arms atm shines in every possible way with redesigned talents and tons of buffs. Anything fury can do , arms can do better. Fury’s main problem is useless tier set atm while everyone actually gaining dps from tier we do gain %1 ish and most of the cases depending of the piece even equipping tier is dps loss. We were in a good spot at the start while everyone was undergeared and we are probably only spec didn’t scale with any gear in this tier.
I do agree frost and fire needs buffs but that doesn’t mean fury is in a good spot. Both of these 3 specs are on bottom 5 ish atm. I even get people leaving on my keys the moment they realize i am a warrior dps. Dragonflight balancing is miserable there is a huge gap between top and bottom also required coordination for high keys makes non utility specs avoid at all cost.
Instead of putting weird talents like smf they should completely remove that part of the talent tree and make it baseline while adding something usefull in there. At this point i am completely sure they are clueless about fury since bfa remake. Legion and pandaland was the best versions of the spec. The moment they removed the execute potential spec become trash tier.
I can’t agree on arms tier set useless, it’s pretty fine on arena/pvp, but it’s bad design that tier set is same for pvp/pve
Arms is pretty good , fury is useless. %1 ish dps gain if you take all the talents supporting it and even then equipping higher ilvl stuff is way better for fury.
For ST/Boss damage:
I think Fury need aura buff for autoattack, earlier Fury was nerfed by 40% aa damage.
In my opinion Fury should have strongest autoattack damage, so buff should be +100% aa damage.
(now strongest autoatack has Outlaw)
I also don’t understand how fury is not the one class that has increased attack range. We are using 2x2h meanwhile rogue is the class that has 8 yards range cause they use daggers???
The last 2 furies ive grouped have been doing pretty damn well.