First i wanna say im not trying to complain i just wanna get this feeling out there for others too see. Im a casual player. For me that means i dont have alot of time to raid and i dont like m+ because to me the constant running the same dungeons over again is boring. I feel like the xpac it hurting casual players alot because there are no good gear rewards for doing like say wqs. I know bfa sucked but i liked doing the wqs and getting greared it was fun for me and gave casual players something to work towards and it still wasnt as good as raid gear but it was somewhat decent and alot better than what we get now. And before the haters and the ones that come in and say thats why its an mmorpg it should be group content heavy i agree but give us solo casual players a little more ways to get gear maybe gear from torgast or something if not alot from wqs. I know ill prolly get alot of hate for this and thats ok. Ty for reading and i hope all is having fun in the new xpac.
If it helps, the game isnât much better if youâre doing Mythic+. Blizzard completely butchered drop rates, so I have no reason to log in after Iâve done my weekly keys.
First 2 weeks, causal players were like : Best Casual X-Pac Ever!! . So, what changed?
Literally, this is what you do in WoW sinceâŚVanilla. Running the same Dungeons and Raids overâŚand over again.
I agree, WQâs are ⌠pathetic. Rewards AND theâŚQuests.
For the rest of your post, too much QQ-ing for what the others might say to your thread.
So, you want more gear, or ⌠to be more friendly gear, yes? Now, if you are causal and donât like to do M+ ( and I guess neither Raids ). The question is : What do you want the gear for? You get plenty of Gear from Normals to M0 dungeons.
So, why do you want the gear for?
If you donât raid and donât do M+ may I ask what exactly youâre even wanting high item level gear for?
âŚto CACTH UP!!
Sorry, I had to say it! 
Itâs fun to receive better items because it gives you a sense of character progression and power development even if youâre not using it to push the limits. Itâs supposed to be a RPG after all. Itâs kind of pointless with gear if the gear itself isnât fun and only serves as a means to an end to beat the game. At that point the gear is just in the way.
i dont get it why ppl want gear for if they are not going to use it in any relevant kind of content , if your just wanna do wqâs -> gear you get from them is more than enough to do them
I tell you which expansion was amazing for alts ⌠WoD ⌠but my god did you guys mitch and boan back then too.
To kill wq mobs faster, to clear old content faster, to feel more confident in groups, if they chose to go there and recieve less toxicity from general player audience.
Ilvl was never a real consideration in bfa, people used rio and other means to group up for hard content, so handing out the gear to casuals had never affected me or any other player really.
So why not?
I personally hope the season 2 will be more accomodating to casual audience, cause 1 try hard season might be tolerable for them, but being ignored for 2 is a problem
You can still do that. BGâs are casual friendly and offer a progression system. You can unlock Legendary items to craft and you progress through other means such as your Covenant, Torghast and the Maw.
Raiders raid for the best raid gear. They want the loot. If youâre a âquesterâ then surely being full âBiS quest gearâ is your own mini system that youâve chosen to scope yourself to.
The game has never offered casuals the same progression of gear as raiders.
WoD had the opposite issue. Alts were so efficient and beneficial you were an idiot not to have a bunch of them, even if they just sat in the Garrison.
It was lucrative, not good.
The more I read threads like this one the more I ask myself why we no longer have gear that boosts performance in the content you do.
Like world quest beneficial stats that would not help in M+ or raid.
The Maw has a set like that but the itemlevel and stats are so low it does not give you the fealing of character progression.
I remember back in cataclysm when we had PvP stats that only was on the gear that you could buy with honour, I always liked that idea that in order to be progressing in PvP I had to do PvP.
But allot of players complained back then aswell about that system so I gues it was just me who liked that.
I dont understand why ppl who dont raid and dont do mythics need good gear??
I am also a casual player and idc about my gear. I just do random bgs to get pvp gear and upgrade that. Or do you not like bgs either? Is wqs the only content you do?
YEP world quest gives me ilvl 171 while I checked what mythic raid gear gives: it gives ilvl 233!!! Why do they get so high ilvl but not us casuals??
I like doing world quests not mythic raidsâŚ
They could remove world quests or callings or whatever it is called now.
Even those profession quests are totally subpar and not worthy doing ( for reward, just for sake of dailies ).
There is a pretty large discrepancy from BFA into SL of what you get from WQs and Emissaries⌠Plus the whole fact it depends on what covenant you are and you can never just easily look and see what gear you would get from âcallingsâ which are worse than Emissaries. The fact that we now have DAILIES plus WQs and neither are in good form compared to previous stuff it feels like a mess.
WQs take ages to do, and this sums it up nicely. https://www.darklegacycomics.com/754
They didnât really fix any of my complaints with systems including PvP, so I havenât gone back to doing âgroupâ content either. Especially with how bad trying to pug stuff is and finding the ârightâ guild hasnât happened for me in ages. I do miss more challenging queued content too, like pre-nerf cata heroics were pretty great. No groups of people stonewalling and refusing to let people in depending on their spec, no just looking at ilvl and throwing invite to highest ilvl of class you want.
I donât like m+, because 1 timed runs and 2, the whole mess of diablo 3 esque affixes. Raiding has become far more reliant on addons and weakauras for stuff and the raid encounters are designed basically for people to have all that stuff which for me, makes it less fun. Probably the last raid I really enjoyed was Icecrown or Ulduar. Used to be easy to pug even before CRZ back then, no staring at premade group finder spam applying to groups and hoping for invites.
around 90% of WoWâs content is aimed at casuals, but playing an MMO in âsolo adventureâ mode and expecting to finish it in a month by receiving the same rewards as those who actually play the game is just plain stupid
Thats not what i suggest, man
Your hyperbole here is missing my point like warriors missed me on my BfAâs blade dance
The covenant set ( open world bonuses ) should be available full sooner and be upgradable up to m0 level.
Thats bare minimum to give them open world casual folk on week 5 of expac, when we all were m0 geared by w2, so it shouldnt trigger any adequate hardcore player now.
Also there is only 1 lfr wing available now when mythic last boss is down, thats a spit to casuals if i have ever seen one.
why do you need m0 level gear for open world?
What do you not understand about what has changed when you transcent from campaign story into end game when you see and underblizzard blizzard screwed stuff up with all the timegating and welfare gear?
Acting like 184ilvl is not trash>