How does it not?
The impact of anonymity changes behaviour dramatically. It changes the atmosphere in the group entirely.
It will be faster to find a replacement for any poor soul willing to learn, rather than you help that fellow out.
There are multiple reasons how it will affect the community in a bad way for the spirit of the game.
This really isn’t a change in the current mega servers. It may have been in a point in OG, but not now.
What? How is this against RDF or against socializing?
Go through them then.
edit: you didn’t remotely hint at explaining how it became a single player experience btw.
Megaservers, sure.
Because the system caters very well to the lazy people. Who would rather leave and queue the next dungeon, than to take their time to be social. They will enjoy their own singleplayer experience.
There is no need to communicate with people to form a group
There is no need to organize transport and cooperate
The feeling of helping people learn, rather than giving up on the group is stronger, because of the ease of accessibility to queue again.
Being randomly deployed with people instead of networking gives a sense of anomality. You could queue with bots at this point.
With no incentive to talk to begin with, there won’t be one later down the road, unless someone tries to be funny for the entertainment of the group. And i can tell you it’s a whole different experience on retail vs classic.
The feel of the world gets smaller.
Where is everyone on retail?
Why is there nobody running around?
Why do i feel so alone and isolated questing in these zones on retail?
Retail has many reasons, and RDF is not entirely to blame, but you wanted multiple reasons, so please enjoy.
There is nothing like that even now, wake up already, go look into the game …
That super fancy retail tool made it even worse, now you dont even need to whisper, you just click “request inv” on random names appearing in your tab and you are done …
People dont care about your summoning stones, most of the time its just one idiot going to the stone and waiting for someone to finally come 15 minutes laters …
And after 15 minutes braindead run without a single word people just disband …
With RDF you can at least get into the game and play it … if you enjoy watching random tabs while pretending you are social, go to twitter or something …
Aka, all of them but 1 in EU.
And the current one doesn’t? The only difference is that you have to be playing a meta class now, RDF at least doesn’t discriminate.
HOW IS IT SINGLE PLAYER TO PLAY WITH 4 OTHER PEOPLE?! Please.
There isn’t currently. I literally just click whatever heroic I want to do and get an invite cause I play a meta class.
I’m LITERALLY doing the thing you’re accusing RDF of doing and much faster too.
Cause I play a meta class.
Flying killed the world. Deal with it.
If you don’t like other groups requirements & loot distribution rules then heres a tip!
Make your own group.
Never again will you be gatekept & perhaps you will find some likeminded people like you who you can add and continue to run dungeons with.
I’m playing it. And i’ve felt the difference. Do you only play classic?
Yes. You are quite anonymous on retail. You are connected to multiple servers.
I think this attitude is making the game worse
Maybe your enthusiasm for the group and sense of community blossoms one day to the point you will make interactions again. Right now it sounds line retail suits you just fine.
Yeah, classic might not be for you, sorry
….all of them?
It sounds like the players are the problem here. I’ve had nobody discriminate my classes, and never heard of anyone being picky on my server. None the less i usually host my groups, and maybe you should to, instead of being lazy and cry on forums when blizzard have already stated there won’t be RDF.
They could literally be bots at that point. In any du geon run on retail, for normal dungeons, i could not be able to tell you if i played with 4 PEOPLE or not. It’s soulless.
That is also one of the reasons, yes. Thank you for bringing that up.
It’s literally that easy
Yes, sorry, you don’t mean anything to 99% of your server. Hate to be the one to bring this to your attention but it is what it is.
NO EFFING KIDDING?!
HOW IS IT DIFFERENT FROM NOW!?
Far more so than RDF could ever hope to do.
So much for saying absolutely nothing …
Literally everything people blame on RDF is happening already in the game and has been happening for 2 eras already …
Removing RDF fixes literally nothing and only makes the game worse … not even mentioning that if we actually got #nochanges there would be no stupid m+ in classic and other garbage changes …
If removing RDF worked we would already see it ¯_(ツ)_/¯
And if you consider this clown fiesta to be the pinnacle of gaming socializing then I really pity you …
This mentality of thinking is what makes people careless jerks in random dungeons to begin with. And i think it is unhealthy for the community.
I don’t feel like i am playing with bots right now. I’m having quite an enjoyable experience.
You wanted reasons
And your solution is to add RDF? That sure would make things better. You should take Galux’s advice and:
Then adding it won’t fix it for you either. What would stop people from vote kicking your «suboptimal class» if people really are this terrible on your server? It’s quite delusional if you would think RDF would make the community better. I’d like to see a list for myself where it would enhance the multiplayer experience.
No, that would be VR-chat.
Degenerate pedobait xDDDD
Yeah theres always explanation behind lacking braincells of people against rdf …
Good lord, it is literally impossible to care about 10k+ people which current servers are at. This isn’t a morality issue it’s just a sheer size issue.
There’s literally no difference from an RDF created instance, just more work, killing off lower level dungeons completely, excluding non-meta classes and eventually heroics will die off, just as they did in the past.
It’s all about the people you get into a dungeon with, the tool doesn’t matter jack.
So far you’ve given 1 and it’s “muh socialization” which is blatantly false.
Cause you can already do the thing you accuse RDF of doing.
15 minute timer or first boss kill, at least RDF gives you time to prove yourself.
Hahahha
Personally i think RDF brings both a positive and a negative impact on the game.
I just think the negatives outweigh the good ones, and that it is not the solution to solve toxic player behaviour
It fixes some of it cause it doesn’t discriminate.
Meanwhile, you lose non-80 dungeons, non-meta specs right now by not having it, and heroics will die as we move on just as they did in OG.
What is the net positive from not having RDF?
If i had the tool to just leave a mediocre group because i could just queue up for a better one, ofcurse i would! I would not be afraid to be a nuisance to anyone or ninja items, because i would not be afraid to loose my spot.
Ofcurse the tool matters.
It’s avout positive reinforcement. You cannot force anyone.
You are worried about 15 minutes? Being addicted to instant gratification playing an RPG… good lord, i’ve never said ‘back to retail’ but it goes well here.
If you are unable to use your own intuition in the list i’ve provided, then you will not be able to understand, sorry.
Didnt you just say
YOU CAN DO THIS RIGHT NOW.
So your solution to not being able to force anyone is to just let the toxicity run rampant. Gotcha.
No, but you cannot kick anyone in RDF for 15 minutes which is longer than the average heroic takes to complete. It was in reply to you being worried about being kicked from RDF dungeons.
It’s not a legitimate worry.
So you can’t actually list it cause you didn’t come to your conclusions on your own but rather parrot others talking points, gotcha.
No, it is simply your lack of ambiguity.
Okay, so it’s just down to the social bit.
So the solution is to let the toxicity run rampant and RDF is somehow worse than this.
Gotcha.
RDF will not solve the toxicity.
And the little checkbox blizzard made us agree to is not the solution either
The next step will be LFR, because people will have sub optimal classes? Give me a break