Gcd is the biggest problem of bfa

[Drae-blackrock]

Man are there actually people defending the GCD change? I hope not

[Leymaiden-azjolnerub (Leymaiden)]

@Sampletext-bloodhoof

Damn it’s almost as if removing a defensive from the gcd allows you to input a damage ability in that window, who would’ve guessed? Outside of that their dps/burst functions the same way.

You’re good at back pedalling.

@Sampletext-bloodhoof

Now roll back to the previous comment, how would removing gcd from abilities like icy veins (mage’s first glacial doesn’t happen when you pop it gcd or not) or wings (especially for crusade where you have to ramp it up) be a bad thing in pve?

For the same reason that currently the difference between a 99% parser demon hunter and a 90% parser demon hunter is decided literally within 0.5 seconds of each metamorphosis, despite the specc being a 3 abilities spam.

[Henoriel-twisting-nether (Henoriel)]

Crazy, isn’t it ?
I still want to believe they are trolling.

[Sampletext-bloodhoof (Sampletext)]

For the same reason that currently the difference between a 99% parser demon hunter and a 90% parser demon hunter is decided literally within 0.5 seconds of each metamorphosis, despite the specc being a 3 abilities spam.

Except that it’s not, what an exaggeration lmao.

[Looksmaxxed-kazzak (Looksmaxxed)]

@Sampletext-bloodhoof

You don’t use glacial with icy veins nor does it hit remotely close to 270k in either pvp or pve but ok.

It does come close in pve. 246k (iirc) for me and I’m pretty sure I don’t have the best gear.

[Sampletext-bloodhoof (Sampletext)]

Yeah in pve you can get close but in pvp the damage is significantly lowered, also affected by the person you hit’s ilvl.

[Leymaiden-azjolnerub (Leymaiden)]

@Sampletext-bloodhoof

Except that it’s not, what an exaggeration lmao.

Except that it is. An Eye Beam initiated during metamorphosis will retain the damage increase throughout the channel even if Metamorphosis ends.

So a 99% parser is the guy who can weave their abilities so precisely as to decrease the cooldown enough times and get that 1 more eye beam at the end.

This is just an example of the difference that a single GCD can make during a burst window.

[Sampletext-bloodhoof (Sampletext)]

Except that it’s literally not the difference from 99 to 90. Don’t even @ me if you’re serious about that.

[Gnomechomsky-twilights-hammer (Gnomechomsky)]

WW felt much smoother in Legion, pre-GCD changes.
…and all the other changes. Now it feels…clunkier.
Bags of extra time between spells is bad gameplay, imo.

[Mariosis-twisting-nether]

Someone defending the GCD changes pick up a warrior or DK and tell me whether using Recklessness or Pillar of Frost, then waiting 1.5 sec as you watch your buff’s duration run and you’re only autoing, THEN pressing an actual damaging ability, is enjoyable game design.

The GCD changes were such a small brain decision I can’t even begin to comprehend what the person in charge of the game was thinking at the time.

[Rondakungfu-stormscale]

@Destruktio-stormreaver

This has to be worst for-GCD argument.

This is what ion himself said, if youre not so blood boiling you will understand it.
After all im maining mistweaver and my haste is at 6%, stop acting spoiled because if you complain once i have a reason to complain 10 times.

[Henoriel-twisting-nether (Henoriel)]

You name cracked me up.

[Lollitá-antonidas]

the biggest problem is class design.

[Eyesore-ravencrest]

In my opinion class design goes hand in hand with the gcd change. I played a fury warrior throughout most of the expansion so far and even though I feel the spec is fun and somewhat well designed the long gcd still feels awful at those times you are not enraged or youre popping recklessness just to wait a full second to press your next ability. And even on that note fury warriors are playing with alot of haste right now but it still feels slower than fury in legion did imo.

[Vesthe-argent-dawn]

Do you by any chance realize how ridiculously OP I’d be with a GCD revert. Dude I’d be able to roll my face on the keyboard while rolling through a raid. It’d be nuts!

[Voodoodle-doomhammer]

These GDC hating people will soil their pants when they play paladin or shaman in classic. “Hello auto-attack”

[Gnomechomsky-twilights-hammer (Gnomechomsky)]

In a vacuum with the current design you might be OP.
But if GCD was reverted for others too in 9.0, and raids were designed with that in mind, I doubt you’d be OP.

[Holystephan-ragnaros (Holystephan)]

Please let me know more about my Oneshot rotation with hand of the protector please tell me how much i broke the game and killed people by being able to heal when i had to … exactly the whole argument that the GCD enabled one shotty macros doesn’t stand when they introduced GCD on DEFENSIVES. GOD it’s f***ing awful to have gcd on something you need to press at a specific time it’s the same as classic intrerupting where you stop doing dmg cause you need to intrerupt at a perfect time.

Also lol at the macro in this thread ,that is a joke right? Macroed avenger shield with lotp? How wasted must be the person that did this macro. That’s not sub-optimal or usless it’s like you are using the macro to debuff yourself since you are eating into your sotr when using it and wasting the heals,it’s literally a dumb me down macro.

[Chapchap-pozzo-delleternità]

MM hunter doesn’t make more decisions when using his gcd’s, you just use everything on cd and wait for most of the fights anyway. I’m not thinkiing about anything just using things and waiting. This id also bad class design imo, but having gcd doesn’t help, all it does is make it more clunky, same for BM you just use ur buffs and wait that 1-1.5 secs and keep dps’ing in most of the fights anyway lol…

[Destruktio-stormreaver]

@Rondakungfu-stormscale

This is what ion himself said, if youre not so blood boiling you will understand it.

Doesn’t matter if the lead designer said it it’s still a very poor argument.

You can’t justify the first YEAR of the expansion feeling like junk for some classes because the second year MIGHT be better. And this is only with GCD several specs need to be improved to begin with.

Just make it better, they have the power.