I tryed abit on beta and i eq swapped with Makro to 1h and shield as a warrior and i have a gcd why in the World or is it a bug?
Any one who can explain to me.
There has always been a GCD on swapping weapons.
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Really? Cause i couldnt remember it ty for telling.
And this was the reason why it was flagged as a very old mechanic and shield wall + spell reflection got new animations and removed weapon restrictions in late MoP.
It also resets your swing timer
I dont know about now, but it did actually trigger an internal cooldown in FDK mastery(frozen heart) back in WoD when swapping from 2h to DW had⊠Meaning.
but it doesnât require GCD ready right?
So you can actually use an ability and immidiately swap the weapon out, so you trigger GCD, but youâd have GCD anyway
That makes sense. I tried this on Beta too (as a Ret) and hereâs the funny thing:
When I weapon swap out of combat to 1-H + Shield, and then back to 2-H, no GCD is triggered. At all.
When I weapon swap during combat, GCD is always there, regardless of the âtransitionâ of the weapon types (1-H + Shield to 2-H, or 2-H to 1-H + Shield).
Is this truly intended/how it has always been? It does seem rather clunky to me.
Iâll further test on this today. I shall let you know what I found.
EDIT: Weapon-swapping GCD works like that, yes. You can cast an ability, and then weapon-swap during that abilityâs GCD. For example, I can cast Judgment, or Templarâs Verdict and then weapon-swap to sword-and-board instantly, but it still âprolongsâ the GCD slightly.
Iirc swapping weapons in combat always starts a new gcd, youâll be locked out of most of your abilities, except the ones taken off of gcd.
I feel like this will slow down warrior Gameplay
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read again on what youâre responding to
Exactly. So it does trigger GCD theoretically, but you can reduce the GCD down to zero if youâre skilled enough.
Thought youâd understand what you want from my answer.
So just to be clear:
as Hollowinside described you can cast an ability â new gcd starts
you weapon swap â new gcd starts and this overwrites everything
and when the gcd is over you can cast another ability except if you want to shield block for example, that is off the gcd atm on the ptr.
This is exactly what I wrote and it does answer all your questions.
I do understand your answer. I know how it works even.
Yes, Hollowinside did understood what I was talking about.
You didnât. You repeated what I wrote (that it starts new GCD) and ignored the core of my point (that it doesnât require GCD ready)
You were asking if swapping weapons requires a gcd ready, I answered that weapon swapping doesnât care about your gcd, it will start a new one above everything else.
If you understood how it works you wouldnât say something like this:
As you canât reduce it to 0, thereâll always be a small delay until the weapons swap in/out and the new gcd starts.
Hardly noticeable, but its there.
Edit: even Hollowinside did the testing on beta it seems as he modified his response to a small delay.
It seems the mechanic didnât change at all then.
From my testing swapping weapon during a GCD simply triggers another GCD
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I kind of miss weapon swapping for things like triple poisons and weapon chains
Not always, but they implemented it quite a while ago.
It got changed because some classes, especially warrior, just made macros for basically any attack to change to 2h, use the attack and switch back to 1h+shield. To avoid that, they implemented that weapon swap triggers a GCD if used infight.
Not sure how useful something like that would be, but if you can swap the weapon during a GCD, will it not just reset the GCD? Does it really stack to 2 full GCDs?
Just resets it
If u have agcd on it wouldnt it slow down ur rog Gameplay also?
Rogue GCD is 1s so it wasnât so bad when used correctly no. The value of having triple poisons on healers or swapping to double offensive enchants when disarm is on CD offset any GCD.