well, as someone who can’t commit to a raid schedule and can play only at odd hours, but likes playing the AH/farming, you’ve ruined and banned my favorite way of playing… Just when I was thinking about returning to WoW instead of FFXIV, since I started enjoying SoD that much. Good job.
Will be an interesting test which I personally appreciate.
- The spam was unreal
- It 100% boosts gold selling. If someone says something else he is denial. I even had two talks with random guys who told me they don’t have the time to farm gold but want to play the game. Which is a fair point but just underlines the gold selling problem.
- Trading items is probably ok. But how do you want to find the GDKP Raid? Discord Grps?Probably can work. So we will have a POE style currency system with fixed items with a fixed value and later on GDKP guys can sell the items for gold. Can work and wonder what Blizzard will do against it. Probably looking at people who sell high amounts of the same item = ban
In a perfect worl where china farmers wouldn’t exist it’s a great system. I agree.
So you have effective methods to detect GDKP activity but unable to instantly detect when an automated bot goes into a tree and fly-hacks off into the stratosphere?
Everyone is really happy with SoD so far it’s exceeded everyone’s expectations but focusing on GDKPs and not the source of the problem is really a waste of the Classic teams time.
Use that fancy detection system to auto ban bots and then you wouldn’t have to worry about RMT and it will prove GDKP isn’t anything to worry about.
True point
True story. Ban Gold buyers and bots. Dont destroy a good system.
we all know blizz will never ever ban bots and buyers. banning gdkps at least decreases the goldbuying activity better than nothing. I don’t know why everyone is crying it is going to be an interesting experiment, now we will see how much gdkp increases the goldbuying activity.
either the activity doesn’t get lower at all and non-gdkpers stop complaining about it eventually. OR it does lower goldbuying activitys by a chunk but what are your excuses then?
GDKP’s gonna be in decline it’s undeniable. No more spamming in groupchannels, harder to get in. and all the tradechat gdkps without discord gonna disappear.
As somebody who only joins gdkp when the economy is already ruined or the server is infested with it so much that i’m going to be in disadvantage for not joining: i see this as an absolute win.
Woah, you telling me that now I can’t play 24 hours straight with all my characters to get the money from total adult people who is worthless at the game and I just want to take advantage of them buying gold that is going to be mine with my 90/10 split?
Omg pathetic I leave the game.
- He said while cleaning the McDonalds coke from his unemployed lips
Great! Thank you
Big W i would say!!
Hi WoW forum,
GDKP is now penalized (I never did, I never will), but what about phase 2, when:
We have planned to level through Shaodwfang Keep, Razorfen Kraul and Scarlet Monastery as most likely the quest areas will be overcrowded.
All the loot that is not needed will be disenchanted, the mats that are not needed will be put in the auction house, and the profit will be divided by 5 (or the number of players we are).
Does this then indirectly count as GDKP?
Looking forward to answers.
Good Luck and Have in Phase 2
Dose not sound like a GDKP to me, it sounds like a efficent use of dungeon leveling though, a GDKP is not the same as going in with a group that beforehand have decided to split everything equal that is not needed.
Hello Blizzard,
could you please clarify if selling specific items from dungeons (not raids) for a fix price is also forbidden?
In 2019 I was selling Hand of Justice runs (from BRD) and the buyer had to pay 200g if it dropped. Right now many rogues in SoD are selling the WC loot from the first boss for 5-10g. Will this kind of stuff be forbidden in P2?
On the one side you sell items for gold, on the other side it’s totally different from what a GDKP run is. It’s a fixed price (no bidding) - it’s within a dungeon (not raid), it does not replace dungeon groups (unless you only need that one item), it has little (if any?) effect on guild-raiding and you could see it as kind of a service like mage-boosting or selling summonings.
I would appreciate a clarification.
Best regards
AB
You are not willing to fix botters, RMT, and cheaters so you are taking it on your playerbase. What a customer centric solution.
Blizz, are you aware that even if bots are part of your income they won’t be playing this game if the actual players will leave?
Answer yourself one simple question:
Would you ban GDKP if not RMT and bots?
EDIT:
And to you all who defend the ban. Guess where the RMT gold will go to now? Directly to all the greens, blues, mats and etc. The economy will go to sewer as it did in Era, just much faster.
RMT and bots are source of all the problems, not GDKP
Like what items? Flasks?
Materials (like bars etc)
True. Story. I think the best way now is to also remove the auction house from the game.
All the bot generated gold there… it makes us guilty.
Keep killing your game, who cares. You don’t listen your community, force us to go Cata is annoying if you remember properly what happened to wow in the past.
But again, who cares, keep doing your sh!t and destroying more and more your game.
Why i’m mad? Because they will apply this policy in future to all versions.
(Cross posting from another thread)
Blizzard have said many times that banning accounts is an ongoing process, and as they improve the detection tools, the botters improve their methods. It is also documented (by blizzard) that many of these accounts are compromised in the first place, so not costing the botters actual subs.
So they need to remove the demand for gold, and those that buy it.
GDKP creates a demand for gold, it is the lifeblood of that loot system.
Anyone who thinks someone legitimately gathered 10’s/100’s thousand of gold through careful/clever auctions and farming has got to take a second look at themselves.
Presuming they have played every hour since release and making 10 gold per hour/ 20 gph/ 50gph, they would have earned
@10 14,880 gold
@20 29,760 gold
@50 74,400 gold.
That’s playing for 1,488 hours since the release. Patently nonsense.
Now take 1,000 bots, making 0.5 gold per hour, over the same time and then the amount gold these folk has earned can be easily seen: 744,000 gold. (3/4 million)
I suspect there are way more than 1,000 bots and also probably more that 50 silver an hour.
Gold inflation will occur in the next phase because more will be earnt from mobs, trash goods, farming, so these numbers become staggering.
Stopping GDKP will kill (some) of the demand, and the botters will turn their attention to other versions of the game.
How will this be enforced? Also how will you make the distinction between a GDKP and people offering to buy an item from the person who won the roll? Are people in those situations no longer allowed to accept gold offers for items they’ve won?
People really have liked to over exaggerate how many GDKPs are being run. I personally havent participated in a GDKP since P2 of wotlk but it’s doesn’t bother me that people run them. On Lone Wolf I’ve had no issue finding MS/OS pugs and actually only seen the odd GDKP here and there in trade/lfg.
It just seems like an odd approach to combat botting and RMT by banning a loot system. It would be like an FPS game announcing they’re banning aiming, your only allowed to hip fire in an effort to combat aim botting.