Blizzard, we need information. nobody atm knows whats exatly allowed and whats not.
all the info we get is from vague statements in blue posts or interviews.
meanwhile you are talking about PERMA BANS, without telling people what exactly are the rules.
atm it feels like some people just randomly get banned gl hf, wtf ?
also what is this warning email supposed to mean ?
do accounts get flagged now because they have done gdkps when they were legal ?
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Bot makers don’t get the exact reason as to why or how their bot got detected and banned either.
Blizzard just avoid stating specifics so people don’t try to find loopholes or ways to avoid rules or bans
feels bad tbh , cos now u can trade in Ironforge and get banned for all we know
If you think a system could be TOS or in a gray area you should prob dont do it. Thats more or less what devs said.
Any item for gold, item for materials, items for X in a raid environment should just be left alone.
I dont know if you wanna know so you could try to abuse the system or not, but I guess they will not go into more details.
This is prob just so they are aware of the rules so noone can come and say “Oh I dident know I couldnt to that anymore”.
The system will prob have some indication of the loot dropping in raids and if they are beeing traded it will prob be logged, while finding a BoE in the world and trading it and selling it in IF to someone will not be triggered by their system.
Ofc its blizzard and anything is possible, but you should be safe trading in IF 
Can’t wait for all the GDKP enjoyers to get banned because they thought they found a loophole.
Can’t wait to laugh at all the people buying boosts getting banned.
You have corrupted Classic WoW for long enough. Good riddance.
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very usefull contribution to the thread , thx
It means that they know who have been doing it, its to show the people who did say that they wont be able to see it that they can (I for example who have not been doing GDKPs have not gotten that warning)
ye but does this also mean my account is flagged ? i would assume the order is : warning → suspension - > permaban.
so if im already at warning without doing anything and get spotten by a automated system again, be it for gdkp or not, do i get supension instantly ?
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What more information is required.
GDKP is banned, simply don’t join or create GDKPs in any way imaginable and you are safe.
Looks pretty simple and straightforward to me.
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From the pic I have seen of the email it looks like its just a warning that they will start taking actions from when phase 2 starts, so its most likely both a way to warn the people who dont for some reason already know it wont be allowed and as a show of force to the people who said that they would never be able to track it.
Blizzad also dont tend to send warnings but suspensions even to first time offenders if they do anything, for example one of my guild mates bought gold in wrath, he got hit with a 2 weeks suspension no warning before hand
You actually raise an interesting question that I had not thought about:
—> What about BoE’s that drop inside a raid?
In my raids I’ve always had them raid rolled so far, and tbh that’s the only way I see fit. But what about a scenario where one player wins it, and another player in the raid asks the winner if they can buy it? It is a BoE, so technically that could happen, I suppose? (hasn’t happened in any of my raids, but it is a possibility, I guess) Would this count in the Gdkp thing? Without any info on that, I honestly will just play it safe and not sell it to anyone that is in the raid group, if I get one, but it IS a valid question, I suppose?
You know what this means. You just want to see specific sentence so ppl who enjoy gdkp can find a way around the rule to exploit it and run semi-GDKP within said rule. They flagged accounts that were part of gdkp on purpose because its a good way to check if you will run some sus raids. That’s best way they could handle it.
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Thats a good question, I though about it aswell.
Due to no guildbank in classic in my guild we DE greens and blues noone wants and when a BoE drops we put all the DE mats and everything else into a “pot” thats rolled for after the raid is done so those who did not win any loot will have a chance to get the “pot”.
Yeah this is such a wierd situation really… Should that be alright? Yeah sure, will it be abused in some kind of way? Probably but it should not be a problem if you win an BoE and I whisper you “Could I buy that for 70g?”, some ppl do that and tbh, thats not GDKP for sure.
With the new rule in mind I would not do it tho, I would prob tell him to buy it from me or anyone else on the AH instead. But then we have the question again, would that trigger some system aswell?
The problem with blizzard way of dealing with stuff like this is that everything is automatic and even if they say they “review” something its mostly “We go on the info our system triggered from”. But yeah its a very good question and it could hurt innocent players.
Not GDKP.
GDKP.
Just don’t do GDKP.
GDKPs are forbidden.
Just don’t do GDKPs and you’ll be fine.
Yes, I have written a post in the Blue Gdkp thread asking for GM clarification on BoE’s, since there are quite a few scenarios (which I posted there) that can make the whole situation weird.
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As has been the case since the launch of WoW, you roll need if u need it and cupidity if it is to resell it or for an alt. That’s all.
It boggles the mind how these people can only think in terms of buying things. I think the GDKP ban will do them quite some good in life, as many things IRL can’t be bought: such as the friendship forged by raiding with a guild and sharing the loot like family.
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I dont do GDKP but Junglebeard acually had a solid question there.
In WOTLK classic on our first raid in Obsidian Sanctum when we killed the boss with all 3 drakes up and the mount dropped everyone rolled for it, due to me beeing a mount collector I asked the person who won if I could buy it from him and it was fine. The raid leader was not happy but thats is not GDKP.
Anyway, this is about an BoE and if its raid rolled it can be that a mail item comes to a rogue or a mage, then it would be a solid question to ask that person if he wanna sell it.
You are making a very big generalization that is far from being true.
What you are saying is true for boss BoP drops, not for BoE’s.
In fact, I have faced plenty of different scenarios regarding BoE’s dropping in raids, dungeons, and even quests (when in group). For instance:
- I’ve seen what you described (guys, I need this item so I’ll press need), in which case other members of the group would usually ask the winner to equip the item, to prove that them pressing need was not actually a ninja (aka the player taking the item to later sell it).
- Cases where everyone just pressed Need (since it’s a BoE and thus could be sold on the AH, meaning everyone could potentially make a profit out of it).
- Cases where a person who claimed to need it gave gold to the other group members so that he could keep it (since, again, other players could get it and sell it for profit)
- Cases where raid leader would reserve BoE’s.
- Cases where they were bid on (even when BoP’s weren’t, yes)
EDIT: and btw, if what you’re saying ends up being the rule, that may even end up being good for me as a raid organizer. Most of the BoE’s that drop are not an upgrade for any raid member, so that means I would get to keep them (as happens with every item no one needs).
So what you said there would actually mostly benefit me, and yet here I am, asking the question.
Well you are patient and you do this after the raid, to avoid any confusion.
But if you have a roll need on an object, it is not to resell it afterwards. So if anything happens, that’s too bad.
Except that wrong, need = you equip, cupi = you do what you want.
If you don’t intend to use an item, you pass or roll cupi.
The rest of your post is confusing but I repeat, you don’t seem to understand.
There are three rolls for an object, whatever the object, BOE, BOP. Need, or cupi or pass.
Need = you equip it otherwise it’s ninjalooting.
Cupi = you do what you want with it.
Pass = … that’s it.