Sounds like someone who never played cata.
Why are you scared to post on your main? Everyone knows I played Cataclysm, you can even wayback time machine to the forums in 2012 if you want and see me calling the game trash back then.
Also, I killed Deathwing HC, I “completed” Cataclysm while it was current. Did you even play it mr lvl40 afraid to post on his main? Let nobody sit here and pretend like Cataclysm wasn’t the worst expansion, or that anyone who thinks that didn’t play the game. I not only played Cataclysm, I was invited to the Alpha/Beta so I played it before all of you.
I still believe Warlords of Draenor and Shadowlands compete for that title. While yes finished version of SL was apparently playable it’s still not that easy to find people considering it a good expansion. One that had some good ideas yes but not really a good one.
But in the end we’re always going to be behind if we start later. Be it Wrath, Cata, SL or even Dragonflight we’re always be behind if we enter the game in the middle of content patch. I joined in the middle of Patch 10.1 of DF and for what it’s worth I loved the gameplay of Dragon Isles. But to catch up with those that were already running it since it started? Pfft… Good joke. The most the game provided was a Gear that allowed me to reach ilvl for the lowest tier of raids and from that point? I’m on my own. Catching up to those that do Heroics and Mythics was beyond my reach unless I had somehow accrued hundreds of thousands Gold for Craftsman services or appropriate tier BoEs. Hell even now even since I played from the start of Cata Classic at level 80 and managed to not miss my first week of Heroics I am behind since like most of my guild I wasn’t raiding week 2. I also missed BoT this week and due to my work I have to rely on PuGs to do raids (and not fall behind further) next reset (sadly working on shifts cuts of my evenings and the guild I’m part of decided to do next reset raids on Wednesday and Thursday).
So no matter what if you join mid phase you will be behind. Valor points aren’t a catch up system by design - that’s what Justice Points are for. And they’re probably better than what we had in Wrath honestly (outside of Beta/Gamma specific currencies)
EDIT. Nevermind they apparently decided to make Valor cap cumulative.
I didn’t play Dragonflight until S3. I played at DF release to level up and then quit entirely until S3, starting from scratch. I worked my way up through M+, pugging normal and heroic raids, had Fyrakk HC on weekly farm, all the M+ achievements complete and got the Legendary axe a few weeks before S3 ended (I was unlucky too).
I didn’t buy any BOE items, only a few crafted which didn’t cost me a great deal per craft, cheap enough you could earn it through just weekly quest/activity gold. Dragonflight in S3 was super easy to get into and gear up. Only thing I didn’t do was Mythic raiding, and I didn’t attempt it, don’t have time for it.
Playing catchup in Dragonflight was really really fast and easy. My gold as it sits right now after making my Legendary axe is still more than what it started at, I didn’t spend anywhere near “hundreds of thousands of gold”.
Good change and I’m glad they did it.
Gdkp is the biggest dogwatter that has ever been into this game. You get trash people with no brain they pay get gear and flex. 95% of all lfg chat is filled with gdkp gdkp gdkp gdkp garbage. You cant even find a normal raid , it has come up to this point and blizzard as usual dont give a damn
No “normal” raids because most people dont want them.
“I think, that Cataclysm is the worst expansion in the history of the game and it also came out buggy, barely tested with very little marketing hype at the same time as Diablo 4 S4 and MOP Remix.”
Fixed it for you.
No one have to agree with you, it is only your opinion based on what observations?.. it is not clear, but however, does not matter at all.
I do not agree with you, because in my opinion, Cataclysm itself is one of the best, if not the best expansion WoW ever had, balance on PvE and PvP is far better than previous expansions, and debatably better than next ones too.
1+1=2 have nothing to do with fact, that 2 is not your favorite number.
It is MMORPG, the community we had back then, when cataclysm was actual content is not the one we have now, that is what makes the difference. Issue is not only in the game design, but with who you play the game.
Peace!
So many useless comments just bad mouthing Cata because they suck at it lol…
In Cataclysm itemization is way way better and Armor specialization defines what every class wears.
There are only so few items that multiple classes need in Cata and it’s like a few weapons, rings and trinkets.
Even with Cloth classes a lot of items that are BIS for mage is not for warlocks and especially not for priests since they use spirit.
Meanwhile In ICC for example every caster and healer wanted the cloth "plaguebound boots from Festergut.
EVERY HEALER AND CASTER! And this happened with a lot of other items, Warriors and ret palas and rogues and feral druids all wanted the same leather bracers.
1 Like
They shouldn’t have released the nerfed versions, but the original ones.
This is all 4.2
Why? Plenty of people are already struggling and most trade chat pugs are either normal of few bosses heroic with rest on normal.
they should’ve made normal raiding a bit easier and heroic raiding a bit harder
so you could do normal raids with normal gear and the try hards have a challenge
atm it caters to none
normal raiding a bit easier? What am I missing^^
original cata dungeons were quite hard.
Blizzard decided your incompentant souls werent up for the task
i hate gdkp run infestion just like chine gold seller sould ban all rmt and gold seller bots and gdkp run all know rmt end day how else get all thet gold price bid whit madness
What does original cata have to do with the current gdkp nonsense?
What the hell are you waffling about? Harder content only results in more gatekeeping and GDKPs where if you don’t perform well or pay enough you’ll just get replaced, We’ve already been through this with TBC Heroics, T5, T6.5 and T8.
The majority didn’t kill pre-nerf Vashj and KT and just quit, Eredar Twins and M’uru massacred guilds at the end of TBC.
I would say the only reason ICC and T11 are “doing fine” is because ICC is ICC and the current tier is the start of the patch (and SOD fell off).
I expect Cata player numbers to crash like how WOTLK did with Ulduar.
But that is the game, it has always been that game.
In Vanilla it was perfectly fine to lag a tier behind.
Only later people expected to clear all current content, which makes no sense.
Just because you get a guide how to do it, doesn’t mean you have the skill set to do it.
Not really, People lagged behind a tier or two because their PCs literally lagged and their internet was bad, There were barely any guides or quality video content like we do now and have been since late 2009/early 2010.
If you’re playing classic to relive 2004 then you’re playing the wrong game.
This topic was automatically closed 60 days after the last reply. New replies are no longer allowed.