They did say they were slowly going to phase them out, and instead they went for the nuclear option, so yes they did lie. And Blizzard has a track record of lying and going back on their word. I still remember when they said they wouldn’t add a bunch of things in the cash shop for Classic. Guess what happened when TBC Classic hit? They added a mount, boost, toys, and a tabard. I get the sentiment of “wait and see” but that only goes so far when it took them so long to add things like UI edit mode, which still leaves a lot to be desired, and the CD manager, which is STILL bugged for some specs…
But keep in mind they adding their own DBM, so wouldn’t that mean they are still going to design encounters around that? Like I said, them making addons native means that it’s no longer a third party option, Blizzard expects you to use their own version now.
They are still going to be making the game around their own versions of addons so again I don’t understand this sentiment. You won’t have a choice now, and if you decide not to use Blizzard’s version of these things, then you are still at a disatvantage.
The devs take ages to fix anything and even longer to implement things properly. I was trying to get rid of WAs but turns out the CD manager is still bugged for RShaman so I had to go back.
You know what this means? It means you have CHOICE. Once Blizzard adds their own versions, you have 1 choice, and if you don’t like it well then too bad, there are no more alternatives now.
Their accessibility support has been terrible in the past and I don’t expect it to get that much better in the future. It takes them WAY too long to implement these features properly and fix any bugs.
Yeah that is terrible, question is, why do you raid with a guild like that? Besides that, loot drama will still happen without addons.
People who use RC Lootcouncil sure, but people who use addons as a whole? Not at all, plenty of casual people use them too.
Except that’s just not how addons work. They don’t play the game for you, they fill the gaps in the shortcomings of the base UI and accessibility. Also Blizzard themselves added a 1 button rotation but somehow it’s addons that trivialize the game?
Mate, at this point its clear your questions aren’t genuine, as the title would suggest. Go watch the interviews - they do explain, with examples, how the encounter design would change without addons. There’s no need for Your questions, they were already answered by the Devs.
And what if I don’t trust the devs because they’ve lied in the past? What if I don’t trust the devs because they always implement things in a terrible state and take ages to fix it? What if devs have lied in the past like I mentioned above? Keep in mind some of my questions are hypotheticals that are entirely possible, and I would like to see what people have to say about that. People seem to put a lot of trust in Blizzard despite their terrible track record.
If You don’t trust the most reliable source of information a about the game’s design, then the thread is pointless and You’ll just have to wait and see how things turn out.
Again, devs have a terrible track record of keeping their promises, their word effectively means nothing at this point. Again, “wait and see” only goes so far when you know that things nowadays release in a dire state and take ages to be fixed, so who knows, maybe things will be okay by the end of the expansion. Again, these are hypotheticals, things might end up perfect and they nail everything in that window of a few months, but again, if you look at their track record, the more likely thing is that things will be screwed for a good portion of the expansion, not to mention the design philosophy might just end up creeping back to the same point it was at before the change, which is another thing that Blizzard has a track record of doing. Sure I’ll wait and see, but I won’t be surprised if I end up seeing a disaster.
If their content requires optional settings; they’ve failed as game creators.
And honestly, if it would get that fair and even started to affect non-raid encounters, I think it’ll be time for me to leave this game.
I actually agree, they have failed at a ton of things in terms of UI, encounter design, class design, expansion feature design, accessibility, the list goes on. A good amount of these failures were ‘fixed’ by addons, when it should have been Blizzard’s job to begin with. Hence why I’m skeptical of their ability to do it right in the span of only a few months when they’ve had years to do it already. Maybe instead of hitting the nuke button and giving themselves a deadline of a few months they could have gradually started phasing them out like they initially said they would.
And I guess when that happens, the hour of all those players who are truly skilled (but could never show it because of addons) will come and they will show everybody how proper skill looks like, the way Blizz always meant it to be, saving the day and letting us all ride into the sunset of a glorious WoW future
then there is no one here that can answer your questions either if you dont believe the developers words .as we are not game designers nor have we played the midnight alpha yet
More people will try content, giving you shorter queue’s and maybe a faction split again. Right now it is so dead you have to play with the other faction lmao. And ye new talent will be discovered, from people who are not interested in downloading poorly coded cheats, aka the majority.
I don’t expect people to be prophets These questions are mainly because 1) I wonder what other people think about this, and 2) I’ve been seeing a lot of contradictory statements and I was wondering what people had to say on those.
I don’t. I don’t do any of that nerd content as a result. Most. Only 16% of the player base has a cure, of that over 80% buys them with gold or whatever or gets carried by cheaters with WA.
In Legion we had protection, higher ilvl could not be traded and it was all personal, back then I dipped my toes in it, but there are many more things wrong with retail (and classic) wow that creates a toxic community that I want no part of.
More people will do HC, more people will do Mythic, and then people who are doing Mythics fine now might end up finding the content too easy, and then Blizzard will end up having to come up with a new tier of difficulty, and then everyone will end up feeling the need to do that in order to be playing all of the content again, starting the cycle anew. The whole reason we got more difficult content over the years is because there are some players who will stick out far beyond everyone else. People seem to have this idea of “I should be able to do all of the content” when not all of the content is made for every single player.
Not with personal loot that is not tradable and not even shown to others. Your loot, only you know. No drama.
ye meant them. People who use combat addons is a bigger group, i’d say 20%? but mostly it’s forced on them by the guild or others or just because they enjoy high end content. People who install crappy mini apps that have tons of errors and issues freely is low. Prolly around 1% of players.
Ye that is literally how some of them work. You clearly don’t remember how WA solved a dungeon puzzle even in heroic or normal with no timer, grieving the dungeon for everyone without 3rd party nerd crap.
Also, a addon saying you need to move before you need to, is a cheat.
Well, I am sure Blizz will reward those 16% gloriously for staying true to the pure game that WoW is supposed to be! But you know, first we will have to suffer through tribulations before we can all enter into the glorious kingdom of true WoW while Blizz separates the chaff from the grain.
Ye well to bad for them, maybe they can work on their relationships lmao. those wow players have such horrible reputation among women. In other words, they can touch grass, it is a mmorpg not a esport.
They should not. They should delete mythic, normal and LFR and keep heroic. Wow esports is cringe, nobody cares or watches it.
80% of players are not buying boosts lol, and having WAs does not magically mean you can clear Mythic.
People like that will exist in wow no matter the difficulty of the content. Classic is easy baby mode and it has arguably the most elitist community of all, and you don’t even need WAs for any of the encounters to be doable, they’re already super easy. The reason WoW has a toxic community is because it’s arguably one of the largest MMOs and moderation is fairly lax. That’s it. It’s not addons doing that.
Well it feels like that. Why in normal Dimensius is it for addon people (those that /say MOVE INTO PURPLE) or whatever with such icon with it, so hard to move into purple on normal. They all die but all have curve lmao, ye right. They got carried hard, by addons, by others, by gold, whartever.