Maybe we play different game but i only care about gear till i’m basically almost BIS and then i que for mplus to raise my score or my LOGS or whatever…
i do the same things with raids
We’ve already been over this i think months before launch they revealed that… yet again raiding will be far superior option for ilevel gain and M+ will cap below Mythic raiding.
It’s silly, but this is blizzard, they want you in the raid.
I think it also is gonna depend on how cool the Boss is. Everyone wants to see Mythic Garrosh for example. I played so many hours, cleared most of the raid in a pug recently, and I actually also love the old lore of the game, but I don’t even know what the name of the last boss is, because I just don’t really care for some reason. I will definitely be excited for Xalatath though
It’s queen…spider woman who killed her mother.
Yeah exactly. The Nerubians technically have a really good story, but Blizzard didn’t really make me excited for them in the game itself
With that logic, why should I, a person who plays without knowing anyone in the game, be forced into M+ or Raids when there are challenging Delves in the game that I can play and get loot solo?
Try to be a little less selfish.
My thoughts about gearing in this game has always been the same to me gear should always be not even in top 10 of why you do the content and to me it would be far more cooler to get special titles and transmogs from doing harder content rather than just another better gear piece that you eventually switch to questing green in next patch/expansion.
m0 is on daily lockout now , dvelves are just 4 for week.
ofc its lower itlv if its more farmable.
Not for me.
My motivation in this game has always come from things like warlock green fire quest and cool things like that gear to me has never had any other value than transmog as i hate gear grind reset hamster wheel cycle to me its the most boring part of this game always has been and always will be.
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So by that logic the world quests should reward the highest teir as the most ppl do them? lol… 5 man content should never give the same loot as a raid as the hardest part is the other ppl…
Where the World quests come in this conversation ??? Where did i write ilvl and gear ??
If you don’t understand don’t write nonsenses …
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… you’re trying to say popular = where the best content should be… man the Facebook gen sucks lol…
WoW i’m a Facebook Gen … Nice to know 
This is where I have to call stop.
What about all of the raiders that are “forced” to run M+ to get their BiS gear? because all I see is a lot of “why do I have to raid” with zero consideration whatsoever for the other side of the coin… But you can´t have heads without tails.
For ex, I hate M+ with a passion, but I´m still going to “have to” run it over and over and over and over and over because of the damn sacbrood.
And I´m absolutely not the only one, nor is this even remotely the first time… This discussion is as old as M+ itself.
Having this same discussion ever goshdarn season since M+ was introduced, “Why do I have to raid to do M+, boohoo” “Why do I have to run M+ to raid, boohoo” is still the best argument there ever was against M+ in it´s current form… The fact that people like myself thats still run m+ on 10+ chars /season massively overinflates the M+ participation numbers notwithstanding, because raider also like to upgrade their gear but cant rerun the raid for more crests /valorstones.
They should have just kept challenge modes and added infinite scaling, for cosmetic only rewards and bragging rights, and given people fixed gear templates, no gear drops, and teh gear you zone in with is irrelevant. then all of this complaining every season about having to run npon m+ content to be able to perform would have never been an issue.
But then most people wouldn`t run M+ at all because they can´t try to cheese it by outgearing it 
You are though, I would rather do PvP than raid, but for some reason Blizzard decided to divorce PvP from Raids and M+, but still did not divorce raid and M+.
Here’s your message with corrections:
The vault is a lottery, and with each vault, your chances of getting the gear you want actually drop. Also, the best trinkets are locked behind the raid, at least for int users, and the raid still drops tier sets. I don’t want to hear people say that M+ players are casuals; most M+ players spend more time playing than your average mythic raid Andy.
Blizzard should take the loot away from raids and see how many people will actually play that outdated mode
You are not forced to do M+ if you are raiding
M+ rewards are awful, what you are on about? The only okay reward is mount at 2k
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PvP is not PvE… Raiding and dungeons are…
Elephants and dogs are both animals, but they are very different from each other. Similarly, not all PvE content is the same. Let’s introduce high reputation and completionist requirements for Mythic+ and raiding, and see how it turns out. And let’s not forget about collections too, all mounts will be required to enter M+ and raiding. It is PvE, isn’t it
Is the peak the widest part of the mountain? Are there a lot of people who can climb the peak and watch how they should prepare for it or thouse who skiing at the bottom doing tricks and people who watch them and look for info how to get to that skiing resort?
There are more people playing M+
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I don’t like that mythic raid is gonna be more necessary than before… yet still more unavailble than ever…
I cba with “guilds” >.<
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