So somehow spending time in +++++ isn’t wasting lol this just screams I can’t raid but want the same stuff, sorry.
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You don’t understand the difference between raid and M+ I guess
One is harder the other is a suped up dungeon… Again if you want raid gear… raid.
Delves are poorly balanced with loot at the moment. Maybe it was just an attempt from Blizzard to tunnel everywhere there to test the mechanics, maybe they vastly underestimated the difficulty. T8 delve loot should not be on par with m+6 dungeon (or at least it should be obtained at a slower pace than now). It’s balanced a bit by the fact that delve trinkets are really bad, but not really.
However, on raids your math is way off.
- Even top guilds haven’t cleared mythic raid yet, for vast majority of raiders it’s really strange to assume that they will have all the bosses on farm anytime soon, yet many already are farming max mythic gear.
- Raid is once per week, if ilvl there was same as in m+ it would took months for a raider to catch-up. If you have m+9 on farm, you will push your ilvl to 613 very fast. Very good raider will have a single 623 item from mythic raid in a week at best. World first-guild raider will get also one more 639. To surpass you, they need not only to raid in a top guild, but have m+9 on farm as well. Even to catch up with you they need to spend a lot of time in m+ (this time it’s a bit skewed due to epic-extravaganza in delves last week). If raids dropped the same loot as M+ they would be absolutely useless for gear purposes.
You think that dungeons are easy? Do you mean KSM level? If I want gear FOR dungeons, I should NOT have to raid
They are 5 man content… the fact raids have at the min 5 more make it harder… due to ppl being idiots…
Delves were simply far too easy for an end game pillar, it’s not a suprise that in the absence of m+ people needing gear flooded to them.
I think this has been fixed now
In solo they are even easier than before. I haven’t tried many groups, but from my experience it is also relatively easy, the main inconvenience there is that bosses and elites are insane damage sponges. And even if the challenge would be tuned to be equivalent to the level of gear it drops, damage is already done, everybody who wanted left previous week in champion/heroic track items.
I’m absolutely sure that we will see a different gear system next season (or at least it will stop on lower relative ilvl).
I don’t think it’ll matter next season, the main reason the m+ crowd were keen on delves was to gear up for the raid, in the absence of challenging content during that very long, IMHO pointless, staggered release.
By the s2, it’ll only be the indented audience, people not interested in raids and mythic plus, who are running them.
Give the best loot to World Bosses events then, amazing logic
5 man is harder because you can’t get carried unlike like in Mythic raids where you can buy boosts for 2 people per raid. Find a boost for +16 key
No you seem very entitled… Want raid gear, raid… its simple. lol please I have ran enough dungeons pulling more than 50% DPS so drop oo can’t get carried in 5 mans.
Have you ever raided proper? And no LFR doesn’t count.
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It is not raid gear, disable it in M+ and it will be “raid gear”
Yeah, I raided before and it is not my cup of tea, love this forum how everyone think that if people talk about raiding they only did LFR, or if they talk about M+ they only got KSM 
and you call be entitled
WTf are u smoking?
Then what about pvp then? 
if i can’t do pvp and compete with mythic raider in pve then it’s not fun like gtfo “gear wise”
Not all Pve is equal 
Right Raid above all else… You are finally getting it.
I don’t get it, because you can buy afk boosts for Mythic raids but you can’t for M+ high keys. I think you are the one who don’t get it
Sounds like your either jealous or just wont raid and want the rewards…
One of these days I will stop playing WoW completly. So many unfair things going on in this game. I invested so much time in the last few weeks. And for what!? I encountered so many bugs. Lost crests due to bugs and unfair implemented systems. Support do not compansete you for in game bugs even if they know about them.
Instead of feeling accomplished and enjoying myself in this game I get more frustrated and anoyed every day.
You used to do Mythic+ and get your gear… now you can’t even do that anymore. You have to Mythic Raid … what is this BS!?
I ran content and receive 8 chests pieces 7 pants 5 shoulders and hardly any items for all the other slots … and they call it Random… what is the chance to get 8 items on the same slot from all the items that can possible drop from a dungeon or multiple!? I am telling you… a very very small chance… and yet … every expansion I get tons of the same items again and again taking me weeks until I get my thrinkets or rings or weapons. The system is rigged against you, it is made to make you grind and grind and log in to grind even more.
Well No More… F… The System… I have 14 Days Left of subscription! I Canceled my Subscription and will never ever renew it again.
Which is it you got no loot or you got 20 bits of loot… and you know what random means right…