Let’s say it’s without reason, then still 3 players wanted that one other player gone. In that sense it doesn’t matter whether it was justified, it’s an irrelevant reasoning. Majority rules when it comes to vtk.
Well the other 4 persons could find you toxic too or define toxicity different than you. Anyways, 3-4 people dont want you there, report if you feel your personal boundaries has been passed and get over it. Making a drama out of something as subjective to others are out of touch. Go touch some grass in your 30 min debuff
Sure, but then make it so that Blizzard actually looks at these reports, and make vote kicks that were deemed unjustified bannable. Youd be surprised about the amount of bans going out then.
I think they do, but not viewing them 24/7. If they see a pattern i think they will get banned.
They do look at reports but currently votekicking for whatever reason is not subject to sanctions, meaning nothing is happening when it should.
What i am saying is make “false” votekicking subject to that and then see what happens.
They do not review anything to do with the VTK system. You can’t report an unfair kick. Every player would always claim to be unfairly kicked.
They aren’t going to employ people to monitor VTK.
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But how can they not review if if , lets say i made a ticket on disruptive gameplay. That would mean they never look at that reporting form.
VTK is not investigated. If you are filing a report for disruptive game play VTK would not be considered.
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Problem is, years have passed with lot of suggestions for changes, none ever implemented. The best I ever saw was “no debuff if kicked by a premade group”. This is totally logical, but nope. Now I doubt they even test any of the suggestions.
Because you can’t have a scenario where someone is exempt and demanding to be kicked. It had so many issues.
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Yes, it’s still the reason. Even if you claim it is unjustified. Any point of view you don’t share isn’t good enough lol? If you do good damage and healing/don’t afk/don’t die to stuff, people don’t kick you. Maybe work on those things.
I’ve never been robbed because i’m 6’3 and i’ve always trained physically. If you are small, don’t travel alone. If you know you are likely to be targeted…do something about it and take measures. If you live in a country with blessed gun laws, buy a gun etc. You can mitigate most things. Just like in WoW, play well and kicks don’t happen.
I also don’t go to Christmas markets so i don’t get murdered with a car.
Perhaps the current system is still the best option present 
Removing the debuff, even in specific scenarios, has consequences. You have to want to accept those.
That while understanding the ‘size’ of the issue. We can mostly speculate based on n=1 experiences, on how often it happens. They have the exact numbers: the amount of runs where VTK can be initiated, the amount of VTKs initiated, the amount of VTKs going through.
Perhaps, just perhaps, the issue is just way too small to spend serious development time on, to change it.
You shouldn’t have a scenario where someone is kicked just for fun either and that guy even gets a debuff on top of it. It also causes many issues for people as well.
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So you walk around with a gun?
You are a prime example of the delusion that is called “it does not happen to be therefore it does not happen to anyone”.
Just when my view of you seemed to get a little better but hey, what can you do.
Seems you ended your sub anyways, no changes (useful ones at least) to key depletion, so according to your own words we wont hear from you anymore soon.
What a joke… “i have never had malaria, therefore it doesnt exist”
“I never had cancer, therefore it doesnt exist”
“Ive never failed an exam ever, therefore no one has ever failed one”
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I’m British, so no. Just these CANNONS /flex . Jokes aside it’s about mitigation as i said.
No, you have an opinion. As do i.
If you have taken every single precaution and still get kicked i’m sorry. But it just doesn’t happen if you are good at the game. If you are not good at the game you should be practicing in solo content till you are.
Read up on class, rotation get was etc. If casual andy doesn’t want to play well then they deserve the kick.
Don’t go to Maleria infested places.
Don’t smoke or do things that increase risk.
Study as hard as you can to try not to fail
These are stupid analogies, each one you can do things to reduce the risk or stop it entirely in some cases. It’s just an excuse in WoW. It’s not random that if you suck at the game you get kicked.
So it doesnt exist? Again, what a joke.
Im done now, see you when key depletion is gone.
Perhaps you are right. I also doubt they have any numbers that would simply justify this system, like: number of rightfully kicked > number of kicked for fun, because this would require every case to be investigated and what is rightful anyway. So I think they just put a debuff in place “case closed, we solved it”.
I’ve leveled all classes to 80 for the FoS through timewalking, and never got kicked.
Played all roles with various performance sometimes struggling.
OP unlucky?
The votekicks i’ve seen we’re almost all because of someone afk or offline.
Generally, it helps to sync with group how you play, I see often players persist with their expectation, not adapting at all and that leads to same old arguments and drama.
Level 71-80 you may need to buy a few cheap boes because of new timewalking scaling, it can be 1k stat difference per piece which is a lot. Like going from tanking as a lvl 70 pulling whole dungeon and then dinging to 71 and dying fast to 3 mobs.
How do you even propose for either a human or AI to investigate VTK complaints?
A player can initiate a kick, they don’t have to offer a reason for that kick, which means that initiating a kick is not and cannot be an offence, which again means that if you (as in the player getting kicked) report it, then you’re the one making false accusations and you’re the one who’d get penalized.
We are not in a court of law where people need to prove something. Its the most basic majority rule. If 4/5 people don’t want you in the group because…your transmog for example and vote “yes” for kick then thats good enough reason for them.
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