No it does not. Im more into sarcasm and direct violence. Both in game and in real life.
Somehow I work in 9-5 job in poor Poland and I can afford 3,5 k euro PC.
Maybe try to find a job instead of posting nonsenses. I at least post them during my breaks at work xD
name one, again, instead of being constructive and present evidence, youâre rather vague and donât support your claims, as I suspect that you know youâre wrong
mortal coil having 30 sec cooldown as justification for warlock nerf? that wasnât me
i know another girl who had very strong period, you can get treatment for that
I still won with you twice xD And you even admitted mate.
And that one above was a joke but you must really sad frustrated guy without any sense of humor.
you had better matchup and I played with underpowered classes like Ret which is easy kill for casters
and me admitting to you winning doesnât equal you being better or having better knowledge
also keep in mind that I did reach higher rating than you, despite you constantly rating bashing me, including last legion season when you wanted to bet who will manage to reach 2k which you eventually failed
Keep in mind that 3v3 is 3 players vs 3 players. So your team reached that rating. My team reached lower. I didnât have people to play with back then. I finally have them now. I also donât reroll to fotm like you. You played feral when it was broken as hell that people stopped quing for 2 weeks. You started to play warlock when it was broken. Guess what healer did you main in S1 in BfA - Shaman xD I play the same spec all the time.
Anyway you are the salty sad guy who is always dead serious arguing with everyone on forums - not me.
P.S.: This time I managed to reach 2k faster did it change anything? No, you are still the same salty guy you were. Seriously just chill dude. There are plenty of people that I had weird conversations on forums/argues and then we had a talk when I met them on bg but you are one of a kind.
Actually I was playing Warlock whole time, I was just posting on my Rdruid. But when everybody complained that I played Feral, because I was posting on my Rdruid then I started posting on my main in that time (Warlock).
I played Rsham since Legion. I rolled Rsham because I liked the mog.
It would if I was the one rating bashing you in past. But I was not.
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Why are you so salty? Why canât you take a joke? Whatâs wrong with you?
Thats his sense of humor: being strictly srs 
Dont take it personally.
ill do that for you instead, my sham still 114 but gonna level it and then i can do that⌠probably next week.
saying stuff like âyou have spell lock for every lassoâ and then saying âoh i cant ground my lasso cause CCââŚ
well sometimes you cant spell lock lasso cause you had to use it for cc, generaly you can save spell lock for it but also, generaly you can save grounding for it aswell so⌠yeah works both ways bro.
I didnât say WARLOCKS went full versa I said MOST PLAYERS as in MOST CLASSES, because not so many classes had the tankiness warlocks had to survive anything. Donât assume everything said to explain why warlocks are slightly over tuned, we need to talk about what people on the receiving end do. The fact that you canât even read what people type when they donât agree with you is alarming. Are you so dedicated to protect Warlocks from others that you canât understand a simple sentence like âthey go full versa, why ? To reduce retarded damage like CB or FoFâ. See, you quoted me, my point was made of one sentence, a why, and an explanation, you took the part that you liked quoted it and didnât bother about the rest. Try reading the whole thing first then make your move. I literally never ever said anything regarding WARLOCKS and VERSA so I guess you might as well stop with your âyou donât understand my classâ attitude WHEN I very much do, and you might as well start understanding written sentences like this one :
I donât see the word Warlock in there.
As for the 25k I acknowledged itâs possible to hit 25k just like 10k is possible, I didnât acknowledge it was the maximum no CD damage like you do, so yes, you need to prove that claim as much as you think we need to prove ours. Whatever rules you want others to follow you need to follow too. Basic human stuff. Thatâs mostly you, on this thread, acknowledging the fact that warlocks CANâT go over 25k without cooldowns when they very much can. So prove me they canât, if you can do that, Iâd be very interested (thatâs not even sarcasm).
Classes donât lose damage for CC in general, but they donât have the amount of CC destro can have which is extremely strong in 3vs3 scenario. Look at Sub rogues for example they have a lot of CC but on a 5s dance if you need to Cheap Shot 3 people then you will have 2 evis, 0 ambush assuming you can cast one spell per gcd which means people have to be close/in shadowstep range. So you do sacrifice damage somehow. Warlocks donât since they canât spam Chaos Bolts for eternity anyways because of the Soul Shard resource. Iâd say on a double coil shadowfury root fear combo youâll throw most of your shards if your team isnât totally afk. And then again even if you spend like half your shards, itâs still considerable damage, much more than what other classes can do WHILE keeping the same amount of CC possibly on three targets.
dont say in general, they dont at the moment⌠well dhâs for aoe stun if not specced.
´How it should freakin be, do you see what you say?
Oh i cant cc a whole team and still do damage, you shouldnt even be able to double CC and have energy⌠CS before was like 60 energy?
Thats how much it should cost lol.
One situation where you trade damage for a whole team cc, you jking right? you shouldnt even be able to CC (with a instant btw) a whole team in the first place.
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I meant that vs most of specs I can cover my own lasso with Grounding - vs DK, DH, Mages (if you play with R Druid) other Shamans itâs worth to cover your own lasso with grounding. You canât do it with Warlock - thatâs what I meant. Ele has 30 sec cd on Hex and if Warlock plays with R Druid and R Druid isnât poo poo the only chance I can Hex him is when my pala catches him with HoJ in humanoid form. The other way to win 2s Destruction Warlock matchup is to kill healer. If Restoration Druid risks going Feral Affinity he has more pressure but itâs also easier for me to kill him and I can do it in 1 combo. I canât kill warlock this way though so if Druid is smart and he plays Balance Affinity at max range I shouldnât be ever able to CC him ever as Warlock would stop us from coming close to stop his drink. Our ways to stop drinks are usually totems and Glimmer of Light damage procs but thatâs it. Keep also in mind that if you kick my Hex I canât - use totems, purge, interrupt, deal nature, heal. You think that everything is that simple.
Iâve noticed that I have much tougher time vs Warlocks that keep interrupt for my Lasso and as long as they donât mess up their positioning they donât need to interrupt my CC. You can also reflect Maledicts. Itâs not hard to download Maledict Weak Aura from wago.
I totally agree with you, donât take me wrong, that much CC shouldnât be possible , especially with damage on top. It is very important that sub doesnât have damage atm, or it would be overbroken just like the first week of 8.0.1, it was insanely stupid.
The point was, Warlocks are very close to being able to do that, and simply can against some comps. See, you say âyou shouldnât be able to cc a whole team with instants blah blahâ okay sub can do that they need to be in melee range of 2 targets or blow 2 shadowstep charges, and even then they need to be in shs range of everyone, and that still costs them 3 globals so itâs not like the whole team gets ccâed instantly. What happens with Warlocks? With 3 gcds they can Havoc Coil and root last target, so they have their 3 instants, which are also ranged, as long as there is one melee on the enemy team. Then there is the shadow fury fear kit which allows for even more cc. And there will be many situations where the cc will still go off even if thereâs no melee. Not to mention that coil puts two targets in CC at once, something that sub canât do since itâs one target per cheap shot, so when the cc chain starts you get more instant simultaneous cc with a Warlock than with a Sub atm. And while Warlocks can do this they still have DAMAGE. That is a problem.
I wasnât saying buff sub, if itâs buffed it will be too strong, but itâs neither good nor enjoyable right now, it needs a rework. Anyways I just used sub to make a point : a class that can cc the entire enemy team has no damage, has to blow cooldowns to get in range/wait for the enemy team to have bad positioning, and is squishy af, and then we have the CC kit of Warlocks which is simply too much when considering the fact that they have that much damage, tankiness, and that the cc are all ranged and the important one is instant.
Well you said that my Chaos Bolt hurts for less because of bad stats. I said Chaos Bolt hurts for 25k as I saw it on my Char and Maldivas stream and tournament (in tournament not number wise, but percentage wise nearly 10%).
You acknowledged that these numbers are possible. Therefore that I am not wrong. I can show you, if you want me to prove it, my Details!, but I saw no point in that. However I can if you really want.
But yours â40kâ is unproven and unsupported. And I do not agree with it (I donât have same experience fighting as or against Warlock).
I donât ask you to prove information I agree with therefore I do not expect you to do something I donât do.
I do follow every rule which I expect others to follow.
Also I did not say no Warlock ever does more than 25k HP.
I just disagreed with your general point that âWarlocksâ do 20% of your health without procs. I am a Warlock and I do not do 20% of your health by casting out Chaos Bolt without cooldowns. Again, if you demand I post evidence for that, I can.
But I doubt you want that. I think you want me to post evidence for something I didnât say.
However I want you to post evidence for something you exactly said.
Which seems as a stretch to me and quite unlikely numbers.
Also
I wonât prove you something I didnât say.
I donât ask you to prove something you didnât say.
I ask you to prove something you said.
You demand evidence for something I didnât say and call me that I donât want to follow my own rules, where in fact you demand evidence for strawman you yourself did while you donât even present evidence for something you did say. So itâs you who doesnât follow his own rules. But I guess thatâs basic human stuff you donât understand.
We never agreed on what you claim we agree on. You say warlocks hit about 25k out of cooldowns. I claim they hit more, but that 25k is a value they were at at one point when gearing up. Obviously, you start from zero and go towards maximum damage so youâre bound to have been at 25k at one point if your maximum with gear is 40k. If I should prove that warlocks can hit 40k without cds or that Iâm hit on average by 40k cbs then prove me warlocks do 25k on average out of cooldowns.
I did games today, the only two warlocks I saw hit me for 41k average and 38.5k average. Had I read your message first Iâd have saved the details. But then I canât assure you that they ever casted without cooldowns even if Iâm pretty sure they did a lot and we were sat down behind pillars during burst phases.
So once again, I didnât agree with you ever, I didnât acknowledge that you arenât wrong. You claim your damage is near 25k max I claim damage of warlocks is higher than that, but some will ofc hit 25k because their character isnât set up (yet). Clear mister warlock defender? As for your proof OK show me tour detail showing 25k. Does that prove other warlocks we queue into everyday donât do way more? No. So as you said, no point showing your detail youâd waste time on a silly move. Look at the whole game instead of looking at your character and at tournament realms which are different, gather more info then mix it together. Looking at tournaments is fine if you also look at ladder and understand the difference. And destroy warlocks are performing excessively well in tournaments anyways soâŚ
You are simply a bad crying piece of Lock.
Did I say max?
I am genuinely tired of attempts of idiots that strawman me and keep telling me what I said, despite me never actually claiming so.
Conveniently never quoting, always just paraphrasing, right?
Itâs not a silly move. I claim Warlocks do as much damage, I am Warlock, therefore itâs enough of proof that some Warlocks do as much damage.
Therefore as you can see, you donât want me to post evidence, even though you ask for it.
But I do want to see Details of even 1 Warlock (I donât need more Warlocks like you for a claim you didnât say, like you do) that does 40k on average without cooldowns.
So far as a Warlock player with not-too-bad gear I can safely say that from experience Warlock does about 25k damage with Chaos Bolt without cooldowns.
If you say otherwise I donât believe you unless you show me proof. Youâre not even Warlock player so I doubt you have any kind of relevant evidence or that you know what youâre actually talking about.
But so far you bash me for not presenting evidence for something I didnât say, yet you yourself donât present evidence for what you claimed.