Get real.
This is a main storyline. That’s not a reward. That’s my frickin’ right when I bought the game. You bet your butt I’m entitled when it comes to something as basic and essential as A MAIN STORYLINE in an RPG.
Stop trolling. I’d be fine with a real reward being behind a mythic, but not a storyline. Not now. Not ever. Blizzard is just wrong in this case. End of story. No discussion possible. Done. Bye.
Your right when you brought the game was the servers, nothing more. You’re playing an MMORPG, which means a Massively Multiplayer Online Role Play Game. This means that SOME of the content should be behind Multiplayer content.
I’m sorry, but you can’t expect to be able to do “all the story” solo. If you want that type of experience, there’s plenty of solo RPG’s out there. You cannot expect to play an MMORPG and be able to do ALL the story solo…
If it helps - think of Mythic+0 as the new Heroics.
It’s just a name - you really don’t need to get hung up on it.
It is daunting using the Group Finder if you’re not super invested into the game or that area of it - but give it a go. Start your own group and put in the description that you are new/first time/just doing the story etc… I promise you it will fill with like-minded people.
I feel like people are using this “mythic” argument to imply that the problem is the difficulty of the content.
Obviously, the problem isn’t the difficulty, but the fact it isn’t solo-able. Some people just wanna play this game like any other solo-player games out there. They are grudgingly willing to Q for certain contents and pretend that they are playing alongside NPCs. But once it comes to mythic dungeons you need to have some sort of social interactions, even if it only means joining a pre-made group and maybe saying “hi” to them.
I’m sorry but I have zero sympathies. M+0 at this point of the expansion is trivial content and the game shouldn’t cater to the asocials who wanna pretend this is some sort of single player game.
The main story requires you to defend Boralus against an attack. This is basically the “final boss”, you shouldn’t expect to be able solo every content in an MMO.
I disagree with your view. That shouldn’t be a big surprise. It’s content anyone can access. I think there is more myth about groups being toxic than there is fact. M+ yes. Mythic 0 nah.
it is, you want it, you get it.
no its not. lmao
just because I bought game doesnt mean i should get 395 BiS Items.
but is it meant to be enjoyed more than other dungeons so it has double gating (1. unlock the dungeon via a full 3-zone quest line 2. excluded from LFG)?
if so, how come the people are complaining about it and not the others?
Like I and others have said it will most likely become a Heroic dungeon later down the line.
I’m not sure enjoyed more than other dungeons applies. It’s just a dungeon after all. There is a system in place to be able to find others to do that kind of content with. It’s much easier than having to sit in trade or general looking for others and having to speak to them.
Most M0 groups aren’t that chatty. If you are shy you can avoid having to say much more than ‘Hi’ or ‘Hello’. You can even put in the description or title of the group you list that you are doing the quest chain. There will be others in the same boat.
I NEVER mentioned doing it solo.
All I mentioned was having the choice of the difficulty of the dungeon I’d have to do.
But to discuss your argument a bit further… Whenever storylines are advanced or concluded inside a raid, you ALWAYS have the choice how you want to run that raid; LFR, normal, heroic or mythic.
This is essentially the same as expecting people to complete a mythic raid just to experience and conclude a STORYLINE.
That’s just wrong.
No that doesn’t help because mythic0 is nothing like a heroic.
It’s not. It works differently. The queuing system is horrible. The difficulty is higher. I don’t want anything to do with it.
I have. I hate it. I don’t have to do it more to know that I hate it and always will hate it.
That’s what I did when I WAS FORCED to complete this utter garbage. I HATED IT. This is not a case where I’m saying I hate something while I’ve never tried it. I’ve ran plenty of mythics. I. Hated. Them. All.
Not a single exception. I hate the whole concept of mythics. I don’t want to do them ever again. So when Blizzard forces me to do them to experience a STORYLINE I get worked up for sure. It’s insulting they don’t let people experience storylines by doing a normal or heroic dungeon.
Sounds like you may have a problem then. Maybe force yourself to do 1 more mythic or find a different game until they change it/nerf it/it becomes old content?
Obviously you have trouble understanding what is said.
Because that’s NOT the case.
That particular questline also required me to run several heroics. No problem. I did. Didn’t like it much, since I’m not a fan of dungeons, but I wouldn’t complain about it because yes this is an mmorpg where multiplayer of course is important.
So having to do multiplayer content is NOT the issue whatsoever.
Most storylines are concluded in raids. I’ve never complained about that.
If the day ever came where a specific higher raid difficulty was mandatory to conclude a storyline, I’d be screaming bloody murder all over these forums. Guaranteed.
i have done all mythic dungeons in WoD and Legion so it’s not that i’m shy, i’m just not interested in that much now. i’ve grew older and don’t really bother that much about things anymore, like something i can’t get immediately ![:slight_smile:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/slight_smile.png?v=6" ":slight_smile:")
latest exception was the unlocking for the dark irons, i wanted to create a new character so i went to motherlode and got over with it in half an hour.
i’m more interested in the background of things however, why exactly are there differences when seemingly shouldn’t be. the thing is, what you say is only confirms more that these instances shouldn’t be different in anything (HC inc soon, not a greater experience, not that hard anymore, etc). it’s like an unneccessary arbitrary decision that doesn’t have any benefit for anyone.
or if it does, what is that benefit?
If I give an answer like this pertaining to TF I get yelled at.
No. That is not a solution.
CHOICE is the very very very easy solution.
And it should have been that way right from the get-go.
You’re wrong.
You are saying it’s okay to force difficulty upon a player. Well, it’s not.
We NEED choice. We DESERVE choice.
We are given choice in all manner of things in WoW, so why they’d make such a blatant mistake is beyond me. The accessibility is not in question here. It’s the very simple LACK OF CHOICE that is. Noone is asking for this thing to be soloable. Just doable in a normal or heroic dungeon. There. Done. Solved.
You like Mythics, awesome. Great for you.
I don’t. And yet I have the RIGHT, yes, the RIGHT, to experience the storyline of this expansion in its entirety. That’s not a bonus. That’s not a luxury. It’s a RIGHT.
Well I don’t know what else to say.
I think the whole point of putting it into the Mythic+ system was to encourage players who perhaps, like yourself, are a bit wary of making groups or trying some of the harder content.
I disagree with you that Mythic+0 is that far removed from Heroic, especially as a DPS your contribution doesn’t have to be exceptional. If anything Heroics are very under tuned these days to allow for all these modes.
What they should do is scrap Normal and just have Heroic and Mythic+0 in the LFG imo.
As someone who played the BC Heroics I’m sure you appreciate the easiness of the queueable dungeon tuning these days.
I’m not a bit wary.
I HATE IT. I never want to do it.
I’m NOT interested in it whatsoever.
Forcing me to do it, is only going to antagonize me. Raping someone is not going to get them to like having an intimate relationship with you. That’s not how it works.
Yikes - with that I’m out.
Hope you find something that doesn’t make you so angry.
I’m not really sure why they are mythic only. I didn’t understand the distinction in Legion either.
It’s not you who’s making me angry mate. Noone in this thread is.
It’s the issue. I seriously dislike being forced into mythics to experience the basic main storyline of the game. That is what’s getting me worked up and I don’t understand why people don’t get why CHOICE is the best option here. You can do it at mythic difficulty. I can do it at a lower difficulty. Everybody happy.
Blizzard should be ashamed of this. More so because they already made that mistake in Legion. And yes, then too I was posting on the forums in a very similar fashion. I did so earlier this year. Then I did the dungeon, hated it, but moved on.
But when I see threads like these, I’m reminded of how damned stupid Blizzard can actually be. And I feel the need to tell them.
My analogy might be crass, but that’s how I feel. They are forcing me into something I don’t like or don’t want to do in the hopes I like it. Well, that doesn’t work.