Gj blizzard,you've done it

40 wts in group finder Raid

27 wts in group finder Mythic

32 wts in group finder Arena/Rbg

You have 99 sales on group finder at this very moment.

Only idiot would think 90% of those are gold involved trades.

You’ve done amazing job,on making your game into pure pay to win.You are doing absolutelly NOT a single damn thing about this,and you’ll never do nothing about it.

You are not interested because none of you actually play game you are working on,so whatever happens doesn’t really bother you at all,since you are spending your time playing gw2,lol and path of exile.

/applaud

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It’s not pay to win, it’s pay to get score and gear. In no way are those people going to win anything unless they are actually good, and then they only took shortcuts getting gear.

Also considering it’s bought with in-game currency for an in-game service, it’s not pay to win.

Oh and it’s not Blizzard selling this, so it’s not pay to win.

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Statement is invalid as you can buy in-game currency with real life money. First two sentance is true tho.

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and they refuse to create services tab in lfg cause that would mean they acknowledge boosting as a legit way of making gold and they would have to deal with scam tickets, monitoring boosting communities etc.

:joy_cat:

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Except a lot of these adverts direct you to a website where you buy the run for real money. Anyway selling runs for anything is against the rules for the group finder.

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They likely won’t as the people buying boosts generally splurge IRL cash on WoW tokens to pay for the boosts. That’s $$$ to Blizzard.

Why do you think they’re making Torghast into M+ time styled runs? Same reason, to give people more reason to buy boosts with WoW tokens.

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“Games main goal became all about gear and rating, even in PvE”
“People buy tokens in order to get more gold and exchange said gold for gear and rating”
How is this isn’t p2w? Yeah, Blizzard doesn’t sell it themselves but they surely provide all the tools and means for it.

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I tried catching few of them one day,asking about boosts etc

They all redirected me to discord,where they have ‘‘SUPER offer’’

Most of the times even when it says ‘‘coaching for gold’’ they will tell you its not for gold,its actually for $

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P2W is still an odd description of this. It’s not like it’s “Pay 20 euros to get this awesome 250 ilvl weapon which you cannot get by playing the game normally”. But the lack of monitoring and actioning those who violate the rules of the LFG system is a problem.

But hey, they don’t magically become a Mythic raider or a Gladiator-skilled PvPer. A full 40k+ hp RBG group losing from a 30-33k group without much PvP gear. Hope it was worth the hassle to get that gear.

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At this point i actually think blizzard condone this type of behavior,because its boosts their token sales.

They would rather remain silent,than doing proper thing,as we can see from their behavior and what they are doing to this game.

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RMT has been there since the beginning of time. Although the introduction of tokens significantly ramped up the popularity of buying paid carries.

Before that, people still bought gold illegally (from 3rd party vendors for real money) but there were much less gold buyers overall compared to nowadays, where gold buying is accessible directly through in-game UI.

I generally disagree with any MTX being in subscription based MMO game, as almost all ingame MTX are created to solve a problem game designers created in the first place. People buy stuff in two major scenarios - to solve a problem (e.g buy food to not die from starvation) or to enjoy a specific lifestyle. The first type of wares does not need advertising at all, it sells by itself. The other one does - e.g. they market laptops where a good looking suited up guy carries his laptop to attend a meeting with someone important. Game MTX fall into neither of those categories. Any problems players might have (eg limited inventory space) can be instantly solved by the game designers. But they choose to monetize this instead.

“WTS” should trigger account global mute for 48 hours when used outside trade channel. :smiley:

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Even those gold selling sites were massive question ‘‘who’s actually owner of those sites’’ because there’s no way in hell,that certain sites had millions of gold to sell first hour after classic release,yet they did,and not only with classic vanilla,but with the original vanilla as well.Some sites had millions of gold available on game release.

People getting spammed on tbc ptr first minutes of release ‘‘by gold on our site get massive discount’’

That was always suspicious to me.Sure there are bots,and fishy sites.

If blizzard sold their own gold and owned those sites,they actually wouldn’t ruin their business at all

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Mate - it’s simple if farming gold to buy boost actually takes less effort than finding group/guild and getting it yourself then no wonders there is need and supply. Simple rule of economy.

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Nobody had millions of gold available on day of release.

Stop making stuff up.

This kind of melodramatic exaggeration just undermines the legit criticism of the game.

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Its not.
Noone is forcing anyone to buy a boost.

That being said… yes, YES blizzard should absolutely do something about that

But they arent doing nothing to prevent that either,isnt that condoning then?

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Sorry, but I may be misunderstanding here, but how exactly is that Blizzard’s fault? If someone stabbed you with scissors, would you blame the company who made the scissors instead of the person misusing their tool?

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I would expect the stabber to be removed from society by the law. You see where we are going with this?

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Now wait for the group of people who thinks the solution is to make the content smooth brain like in Classic.

This forum is going full circle every day.

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