“you don’t PvP to help them, you’re just doing it to make people angry, that’s called griefing”
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Just because someone doesn’t like someone who actively sits in 1 spot and just dispels people who pass by, doesn’t mean that they don’t want PvP.
It’s not griefing. People are forgetting the big picture; dispelling buffs makes your faction more likely to win the battle of BRM.
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Whose quote is that? 
I swear it’s the dumbest thing someone said in regards to PVP servers…
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Hello.
We take reports like this very seriously.
Early this morning, we opened an internal investigation into the matter. While investigating, we overturned the suspension and reached out to the suspended player.
To everyone who brought it to our attention: thank you very much!
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Tbh, I was more pissed about the guy who ganked me on the Tanaris escort quest at lvl42 than I was at losing world buffs.
90% of world pvp is about pissing off the other player.
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Thank you for your response, can you clarify that this behavior, by dispelling people-- Is not a banable offence? Just so other people arent worried to catch a ban.
Thank you for reaching out to the player and lifting his ban. I hope to see the appropriated action taken against this GM.
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Then those people should play on a PvE server if they REALLY need those buffs and losing them puts them so over the edge that they get a guy banned.
Losing wbuffs sucks and I don’t think anyone actually likes dispellers but that’s just something you have to play around on a PvP server and that’s fine.
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The danger off getting dispelled and work around it, is part of the classic pvp server experience.
the 1.12 state of the game is nerfed to death and stale enough. The danger of getting dispelled is literally the only thrill left.
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I respect your opinion but in my opinion there is a difference between using the stream to get an upper hand on a gank for example and just having absolutely no intention of winning the fight but doing your best to screw over that person your trying to attack. If it was one or twice it wouldnt matter but this person has been doing this for a good amount of time. Whether or not you think thats par for the course doesnt matter when its in breach of TOS as it is classified as griefing.
No. Why would it?
The streamer issued an apology and basically tried to justify himself/blame himself at the same time as saying it’s not the GM’s fault that the GM banned the guy.
You’re there like… that’s like asking a bank to transfer £50 from somebody’s bank account into your bank account for instance.
And saying it’s your fault, not the banker’s fault.
The GM needs to be taught how to do his job instead of just banning people on a streamer’s rage.
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I know you often have a hard time understanding what I say, so I’ll simplify it for you.
If you dispell people just to anger them, you are griefing
I don’t think you should be banned for it, but at least be honest with yourself. You don’t dispell people because you’re trying to cleanse the world of evil world buffs, you’re doing it to cause misery and frustration; that is the very definition of griefing. You gain nothing from it other than the joy of ruining somebody else’s experience
World PVP isn’t the same as dispelling, dying, resurrecting and then doing the same again. You actually have to be better than the other person for World PVP. Pressing “dispell” isn’t beating anyone
I agree, this shouldn’t be bannable. But dispellers should still be honest with themselves; they’re simply griefing.
No, it isn’t stupid logic at all. If somebody kills you in PVP, they actually have to beat you. There’s little counterplay to being dispelled, aside from stocking yourself up on buffs that waste the dispells.
I have read the terms of service, hense why I’ve said time and time again:
No, I don’t think dispelling should be bannable
But be honest with yourself. You’re not competing with the opposing faction by dispelling them. You’re doing it for the sole purpose of making somebody angry. Nothing more, nothing less.
That’s called griefing
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I think the fact that the ban was reversed says that it’s not a bannable offence.
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Way to go, taking it out of context. I never said that anything that pisses ppl off should be bannable. That’s jus tsilly. I said PvP is fine. What do you mean about AH? A friend of mine got banned for rigging the AH (he claims at least), but I think that was during MoP.
Like the other guy, u took it out of context. I said PvP is fine. Also, strong disagree on the reason to PvP. I think it is mostly done to dominate the other player, not to piss them off. EDIT: or for honor ofc.
Flash news - lots of ppl roll on PvP servers to grief the opposition. Your whole idea that “You actually have to be better than the other person for World PVP” is naive and has no bearing on what wPvP actually is like on PvP servers. Stuff like zerging people with uneven numbers, attacking a person while they have a mob on them and so on is your typical wPvP business, and you absolutely don’t need to “be better”. wPvP has never been a realistic bar for PvP skill to begin with.
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You’d be surprised at the counter measures alliance on firemaw and probably other servers take to get into BWL with world buffs. Plenty of things you can do. It’s become a game of cat and mouse where the mouse gets really salty when it loses of course.
I’m aware, hense why I said:
Your idea of “better” is a lot different to mine. I didn’t say you have to be more mechanically skilled or knowledgeable, I said better. You have to outplay and kill that person, whether by yourself or with better numbers of players.
Dispelling requires nothing. You ress, you dispell, you die, you repeat.
I’m aware, I left Firemaw and came to Bloodfang, it’s the same here. There’s a dwarf priest in BB dispelling every single tuesday and wednesday, from 7am to around 8pm.
I assume it’s the same for the Alliance.
The reality is that it’s simply griefing. The only enjoyment anybody gets from dispelling is, as you said, the knowledge of the salty mouse.
(I personally refer to avoiding others with my world buffs as Anne Frank simulator. No doubt somebody would find that offensive, though)
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