Killing a Player is PvP, killing a Player 100 times is Griefing.
Do u know what griefing means?.. because u soiund like you really dont, u can Grief a Community of Players Just as much as a Single player and the punishment still stands when Grtiefing a Community or a Single player.
this guys not killing PvP enabled players, hes DIspelling players and thats it, its not PLAYER VS PLAYER if your literally not VSing each other lol. ur Just harrassing players who are trying to pve.
and Sure.
thats why PvP in both classic and retail are dying out. Because Players lose faith in the community of the game because People do this and others go on to defend it lol.
u wonder why blizz dont give a crap about pvp, when u guys behave like this xD it litterally does nothing but make the Community look bad and shed a ton of negative Light on the games community.
p.s i said I dont think its worth a ban in my first statement
I donât agree. Look: In Vanilla, camping oneâs corpse was everyday work and a 50% occurrence, given the nearby quests, as far as I remember. So itâs not griefing but by design (!) which led to entire playerwars.
The decision to stream on a PvP server is, in my view, a natural part of the community process that enables new avenues of the game, as intended. To define rules in a sandbox environment is to neglect the game.
âwow dudes I sure love to sow but when itâs time to reap boy do I hate it, anyway PvP servers are the only way to go because youâre just a baddie if youâre not on a PvP server, whoahw what the hell my sweaty PvE buffs I donât need to beat literally any of the absolutely easy content are getting dispelled?!?!?!?!â
Just because someone doesnât like someone who actively sits in 1 spot and just dispels people who pass by, doesnât mean that they donât want PvP.
Early this morning, we opened an internal investigation into the matter. While investigating, we overturned the suspension and reached out to the suspended player.
To everyone who brought it to our attention: thank you very much!
Thank you for your response, can you clarify that this behavior, by dispelling people-- Is not a banable offence? Just so other people arent worried to catch a ban.
Thank you for reaching out to the player and lifting his ban. I hope to see the appropriated action taken against this GM.
Then those people should play on a PvE server if they REALLY need those buffs and losing them puts them so over the edge that they get a guy banned.
Losing wbuffs sucks and I donât think anyone actually likes dispellers but thatâs just something you have to play around on a PvP server and thatâs fine.
The danger off getting dispelled and work around it, is part of the classic pvp server experience.
the 1.12 state of the game is nerfed to death and stale enough. The danger of getting dispelled is literally the only thrill left.
I respect your opinion but in my opinion there is a difference between using the stream to get an upper hand on a gank for example and just having absolutely no intention of winning the fight but doing your best to screw over that person your trying to attack. If it was one or twice it wouldnt matter but this person has been doing this for a good amount of time. Whether or not you think thats par for the course doesnt matter when its in breach of TOS as it is classified as griefing.
The streamer issued an apology and basically tried to justify himself/blame himself at the same time as saying itâs not the GMâs fault that the GM banned the guy.
Youâre there like⊠thatâs like asking a bank to transfer ÂŁ50 from somebodyâs bank account into your bank account for instance.
And saying itâs your fault, not the bankerâs fault.
The GM needs to be taught how to do his job instead of just banning people on a streamerâs rage.
I know you often have a hard time understanding what I say, so Iâll simplify it for you.
If you dispell people just to anger them, you are griefing
I donât think you should be banned for it, but at least be honest with yourself. You donât dispell people because youâre trying to cleanse the world of evil world buffs, youâre doing it to cause misery and frustration; that is the very definition of griefing. You gain nothing from it other than the joy of ruining somebody elseâs experience
World PVP isnât the same as dispelling, dying, resurrecting and then doing the same again. You actually have to be better than the other person for World PVP. Pressing âdispellâ isnât beating anyone
I agree, this shouldnât be bannable. But dispellers should still be honest with themselves; theyâre simply griefing.
No, it isnât stupid logic at all. If somebody kills you in PVP, they actually have to beat you. Thereâs little counterplay to being dispelled, aside from stocking yourself up on buffs that waste the dispells.
I have read the terms of service, hense why Iâve said time and time again:
No, I donât think dispelling should be bannable
But be honest with yourself. Youâre not competing with the opposing faction by dispelling them. Youâre doing it for the sole purpose of making somebody angry. Nothing more, nothing less.
I swear itâs the dumbest thing someone said in regards to PVP serversâŠ