GM banned a world buff dispeller for 6 months because of his streamer getting dispelled

Killing someone is pretty much for that sole purpose. So if I kill level 40 I gain nothing from it, no honor, but it’s not bannable is it? I just caused them grief.
So are we going to ban ganking then too?

How is that any different from people who gank on ships, or in open world, for hours on end? Should we ban them too?

So because it doesn’t happen on your server, it doesn’t exist?
That’s a very narrow world view.
“There’s no world hunger because I don’t see it in my country.”

AFAIK it’s a bannable offense to repeatedly kill quest NPCs etc. Proves your logic wrong.

I suppose you have to have a job in order to not furiously ask for people to get fired.

He abused his position. He was way out of line.
If someone spat on your pizza wouldn’t you want them fired too?
Get real and try some real insults if that’s all you here to do.

It’s kinda funny how fast the GM investigated the offence here. Yet it take months to actually ban bots that break the rules?

Well, a GM going rogue and a legit player being unfairly banned warrants a fast response I would say.
And Blizzard always seem to be banning in waves. Not that I agree with that as I think it makes people using bot able to turn a profit every ban wave, but still.

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Banning in waves is the most stupid thing ever.

Read what I’m actually saying. How many times have I now said:

Griefing the opposing faction isn’t bannable.

My god. Argue against what I’m actually saying, not what you THINK I’m saying.

No, nor should we ban dispellers.

Slight calculation for you.

The only speed clear competition for Alliance on Bloodfang is ER
ER don’t get griefed because their allied with Turtles
Turtles still grief other Horde

Clearly: Turtles don’t grief to beat competition. So your blanket statement of “durrrrrr people only do when competing for speed clears!!” is wrong.

Sinrae, read what you’re actually responding to before you respond. And whilst you’re at it, try and remember the previous points of the discussion; otherwise you’re just going to confuse yourself.

Different teams. The bot busting team aren’t the same team that deal with customer support issues. It’s kind of like going to a restaurant; your waiter won’t be the person that actually cooks and prepares your meal.

Bots are banned via waves and through an automated system. The dispeller ban was delivered by a rogue GM; the rogue GM wasn’t allowed to ban somebody for no reason and simply abused his power.

The issue was swiftly dealt with because customer service issues are often dealt with in person: also it was a well documented incident.

I agree. It wouldn’t be so bad if the waves were weekly bans instead of monthly / bi-monthly.

What a dumb thing to do as a GM…

The reason they do not ban bots on a weekly basises is to avoid the botters detecting the systems they use the flag them. If you do something then a week goes past and you dont get flagged its considerd ‘got away’ with. if the botters do several things during alonger timeframe then the ban hammer comes they do not know which thing flagged them. Banning in waves is a much healther way in the long run for blizzard.

Then ganking is griefing , killing quest NPCs is griefing, bring teremus in city is griefing, etc… but we are not streamers so we cannot demand bans on said guys…

Stop this. Just stop. Judging people based on their posting avatar / level means you are losing confidence in your initial arguement. It’s completely irrelevant to you from which character someone is posting. What matters is what’s said and how it’s elaborated.

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Moral of the story

Don’t dispel special snowflakes.

Was bannable in vanilla atleast.

If the s$%t that happened in phase 2 is not bannable, then nothing is.
Fire that GM for abusing power.

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The moral of the story:
All players are equal, but some players are more equal than others.

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Absolutely this, phase 2 destroyed alliance population on Flamelash.

Horde went very try hard to get as much honor meanwhile most of the alliance player had an mindset there was somekind of honourable / immersive pvp experience - when the alliance realized that was not the case and did not had an ‘‘upper hand’’ - one by one -rushed most of them of too Stoneshatter.

Players decisions and faults most case but there could been some prevention from Blizzard.

So if nothing was done back in that bs phase nothing has to change now.

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ppl always say nothing was done but actually bgs were rushed out early.

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LMAO people trying to define is dispelling griefing of not like they are lawers or something. What are you doing is called - false dichotomy. That’s the problem with yall trying to split hairs without looking for intentions. “Yea dispell is a spell i push button against another person is pvp” lol. Poorly designed game does not make something less of a grieffing just because its allowed. Another question what actions should be taken, banning a person in a matter of seconds without investigation is clearly wrong. Nothing is black and white.

no kind of griefing should result in a ban.