GM banned a world buff dispeller for 6 months because of his streamer getting dispelled

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No, I never said that. I called dispelling griefing (it fits perfectly into the definition of griefing, so it’s not even debatable), but I never said that ALL griefing should be bannable.

Did I start a fight? The other guy was asking me questions like “What if he does this” and “what about that?”.

Dispelling rarely happens to me and I don’t even get very pissed off about it, I just wouldn’t mind if the ppl sitting and dispelling all day got banned. It might be complicated to do and not a very good idea tho
 Stop assuming my opinions.

Then you have nothing to add to the discussion, the issue here was a person being banned for something that isn’t bannable by ToS.

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The one not adding anything is you. I responded to another person about whether it is griefing or not.

I missed this comment of yours. The grief comes from the effort and time spent trying to prepare for a raid and then have that ruined by the click of another players button. Something like that. I mean, if ppl didn’t care about losing their buffs ppl probably wouldn’t go to such lengths to dispell them either. If it didn’t matter, what would be the point?

Looks like the “griefer” got banned again.

https:// clips.twitch .tv/AlertTacitWaffleNotATK

Blizzard get your staff right. No one needs that bs.

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Looks like people get him banned with automated report system. Great job blizzard as always.

How dumb someone must be for doing this
 they will get banned for abusing the report system (what is actually banable) and he will get unbanned from blizzard once again.

You don’t do dungeons ocasionally, you spam dungeons till 60. If you are a melee you can complete some side quests for weapons and go back to dungeons (Stockade, SM, ZF, BRD and then LBRS/UBRS). That’s how you are efficient/competitive.

Stop flooding the forum with your comments. You have little knowledge of Classic. You hide your true classic name/guild cause you come from a non-competitive guild and you try to give everyone a lesson how to play / what do to when you have no clue what are you talking about.

STOP SPAMMING. You have an insane amount of posts full of meme. Can a moderator limit the amount of posts of this guy? It seems he is here night and day quoting every single word of everyone. Thanks. The quote/spam format is very unpleasant to read as well.

It would be nice to have a limit: e.g. maximum 3-4 comments per day.

Dear Blizzard,

If you don’t consider behavior of Arlaeus being a bannable offense
(it’s a biggest exploit in a while to have a GM friend to ban someone you just don’t like. Please do notice how he calls the GM by name in his stream)
then I don’t know what would be an offense anymore.

If you atleast very little care of WoW integrity and your reputation, please take serious actions towards Arlaeus. I’d expect a 6 month ban.

I will follow discussions of this issue very close during next few days and will make a decision if I wish to keep supporting Blizzard with my monthly payments.

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In his video Arlaeus blamed the GM and the banned player for wrongdoing and didn’t take any responsibilities of his own actions. Of course he’s making an apology video to a) stop his followers abandoning his streams b) to get even more views

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The guys toxic AF. I once asked him how he felt about promoting mage boosting and its effects in the game and his answer was pretty much “that’s none of my concern i’ll do me”

I honestly have no time for people who are not part of the collective.

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Was that before or after the raid group exp nerf? And no, I and plenty of others levelled solo and that is how we would level our alts; were we not given the option of getting boosted by friends.

None of what you have said take away from my main point: removing boosting wont take you back to world chat being full of “LFG SM, WC, Gnomer, RFD, Ulda (insert other dungeon that few people care about)”

Removing the fast way of levelling alts just means less people will bother with alts, so you’ll have less fresh 60s looking for Strat, BRD, LBRS, Scholo ect ect.

That’s absolutely adorable. Read what I previously said about my posting Avatar. I’m not changing my Avatar to cater to somebody as insignificant as you.

And no, I’m quite happy with my casual 40-45minute BWL runs. I’m happy with my guild and I’m happy with my friends.

Furthermore, do you not see the irony/hypocrisy of you crying about people boosting as they wish to level as fast and efficiently as possible, yet here you are talking about playing fast and efficiently.

Pick your stance and stick to it.

No, moderators can’t limit what I’m saying fore what I’m saying isn’t wrong.

Speaking of spam; you were the one that derailed the topic; not myself.

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Few things will destroy this game faster than e-celeb favoritism from the admin staff, it’s a very dodgy slope, the GM in question is likely getting fired over this.

Blizzard already has a pretty negative reputation with regards to banning people etc, stuff like this doesn’t help.

The universe already punished Blizzard with Dota 2, I’d rather not tempt fate any further than is necessary if I were them.

I don’t get it, why are some people in this thread for banning people who use mechanics available in the game?

don’t play a PVP server if you get mad over dispelling

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Its a good thing Blizzard are investigating the issue.

IMO

Yeah sure screwing someones time like that for spending hours to get some silly buffs might be morally wrong but ya know he should have a clear understanding of what they gets into when he picked a Pvp realm, PvE realm would had been a better option for him.

Or just go without the world buffs, you do not really need them.

Now just imagine you kill a player with the buff and gets banned just like that cause the streamer losing the buff.

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Okay my 2 cents. I agree with you Parla on some points and COMPLETELY disagree with others.

This GM randomly banning 1 dispeler because he is a fanboy or anything is wrong. He shouldnt be a GM anymore as this is not what GMs should be doing.

However intentionally having low level chars, multi-boxing priests/shamans and staying with hours on end at DMF, in the middle of portal places and such is griefing and SHOULD be bannable. I know its not explicitly said in ToS and such, but that doesnt mean it cannot be updated.

Griefing is intentionally ruining other people’s experience without any personal gain or benefit. PvPing is PvPing - I see a full world buff guy, I jump him we fight it off and job done. Having mutliboxing level 20 shamans at BRM spamming purge is ONLY griefing and not PvP.

I understand this is a very very controversial topic and its hard to say when/if/why someone is doing what he is doing. But its clear when people go out of their ways only to ruin it for others.

Its not about if you can get buffs or if you need them. If you are being constantly corpse camped blizzard CAN ban the offenders because of griefing - but hey you can logoff, you can run to another rez spirit, hell you can call your faction to help you - doesnt make it any better does it?

I do agree buffs shouldnt be active in raids or at least made undispellable. But it is what it is.

And finally - dont even get me started on sapping World Buff NPCs. Rogues should be eternally banned for intentionally griefing a whole faction by denying a world buff, just for the sake of it.

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It’s not about defending people who enjoy interrupting another person’s game play - it’s about consistency

On a PvP server any action against the opposing faction is legitimate and does not breach ToS- the guy should not have been banned - should not have received any sanction at all

If Blizz really want to address the issue simply take the PvP flag off in Black Rock Mountain, Onyxia’s lair and later AQ - make it a safe zone

Otherwise it’s legitimate griefing and pointless complaining

The GM in this case should be removed

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To me, that’s the very definition of griefing, spending all day dispelling random players when it’s not to your immediate advantage. Griefing.

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