Gold problem on servers

Lets see… how to start.

The current problem with the gold on servers is fully out of control. What do I mean ?

Well, as an example on Firemaw Alliance side a Haste pot goes from 21-26g each. As a physical dps you use… about 13 if you don’t wipe at any point in Sunwell. Assuming you do wipe ? Then you go well over 20+.

Agy/Str scrolls are easily 10g each. The cheapest things are usually flasks and or Elixirs. But they can be close to 10g each, depending on what you opt to use, and yes the Flasks are “free”, but not bis.

To be able to raid you need to:

A) Have literally no life and farm gold around the clock.

or

B) Buy gold all the time and risk a suspension.

These problems are even worse because Blizzard gives 100% no fkks about gold sellers and gold buyers. The bots are running rampant on farming spots. You want to farm Terocone ? Sucks to be you friend, the amount of bots running around 24/7 is endless. If you get a couple of picks per hour you should be super happy.

People buy tons of gold, go to GDKP’s and put insane amounts of it into the market. At that point prices start going up, inflation kicks up. The normal player cant manage the increased prices, players start doing A or B or quit.

So the current option if you want to raid is risk a suspension/ban, don’t have a life, or don’t play the game.

Whats the fix ? If Blizzard cba to actually manage the bots at least outlaw GDKP’s.
Its beyond me how some GDKP runs can have a pot of over a million gold in TBC and Blizzard does not suspend anyone and its all “legit”.

Sort the bots, or the GDKP runs, otherwise raiding in Wotlk will not be sustainable, even for the capable raiders.

And just to make it clear, there is nothing wrong with GDKPs in a perfect world. But in a world where the game is literally pay to win at this point, then a couple of oil… erm “people” can destroy a server economy.

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Agree. Can’t even buy gold online for places like ES because too few ppl on it, this is the result of the megaservers and every farmer going there.

The problem starten after the server lock, bots are getting banned but can’t make new characters. Prices are raising weekly because of that (everything is).

Please blizzard bring back the bots!

i do the sunwell dailies everyday, thats 250g for about an hour worth of grinding. which according to your list of needs on consumables 2 days of dailies covers a weekly sunwell clear worth of consumables, maybe 3 days if you wipe alot.

thats not much and certainly isn’t gold farming around the clock

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If I use my last raid clear (Which was not very good, we had a few wipes) 22 haste pots, 14 scrolls each, 5 mana pots and 8 major agy + 14 Mageblood.

The total for this comes out to around 800g+. And thats not even counting for Guilds that have a lot more wipes and are still progressing, not just full clearing it all in 1 night.

Also, as far as I know you get about 120-140g from the Isle quests. And thats with the possible greens and what not. So I am not quite sure where the 250g is coming from. Sure if you do other dailies that are not on the island. But that lasts more than an hour.

Or you free move to Earthshaker where terocones are 1.50g, haste pots often under 5g and scrolls about 6g.

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i do all the isle quests, both the ones which take place on the isle and the ones where it sends you off the isle + the quest in shatt that sends you to netherstorm as its so close to the 2 quests at throne of KJ. selling greens i get 220g minimum and then the extra (motes of fire/mana arcane tomes etc) will easily make it upto 250g. it takes me about an hour, maybe 10 minutes more to do all of this.

again an hour, or an hour n half if your being lazy is not around the clock gold farming

also the herbs and ore respawn super fast. you could probably run laps of the isle herbing/mining everything and make more gold per hour than doing the dailies themselves

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It’s a well deserved issue caused by literally all the w@nkers buying gold
Edit: it’s called inflation.

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You are joking right? Omg…

Ofc I am sarcastic :slight_smile:

But ye one of the reasons the prices are raising massively is because a lot of bots got banned.

To much demand to few materials/consumables = price raise.

WoW … so even assuming a lot of wiping, you end up spending what? 600g per week?
That’s the same amount or less than what people spent running naxx in classic when gold was much harder to come by. And the resist pots were waaaaaaaaaay more needed than a 20agi/str scroll is in tbc.

But back on topic, if you struggle to make 1000g per week for raiding consumes you’re really really really playing the game wrong or just not playing it outside of raidlogging and expecting the game to just throw stuff at you.
As a dps that raids Sunwell it takes me less than 1 hour to complete all the Sunwell dailies and that is over 200g. There are 19 dailies (including Shattrath and Throne ones) and each grants around 10g + greens + vendor items.
So basically if you play the game for 1 hour each day outside of the raiding days with no special farming, you can be more than fine. You can also utilize professions for extra gold on the side … you’d be surprised at how much some of them can net you.

Alternatively, you take advantage of GDKP … joining a Hyjal that takes 2 hours as a pumper will get you 500-1000g depending on drops, BT will get you even more.

While botting and RMT does exist, there are many legit players that made a TON of gold by simply playing the game. Pumping in t6 GDKP for a month will get you 10k gold if not more.

Maybe it’s all part of the plan so they can introduce the wow token. :thinking:

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That’s a design flaw actually. When you think about it, we are not 16-year old kids anymore going to school and having nothing to do outside school besides WoW. When you have like 2 hours daily to play with extended time frame during raid days, 1 hour each day just doing repetitive, never changing dailies in order to fuel raiding activities is exhausting and depressing.

I still think that instanced activities and open world activities shouldn’t be connected, but that’s my opinion.
Let raiders raid without having to do any other activity to fuel raiding.
Let questers have fun and quest without having to do any other activity in order to fuel the main activity.
Let gold makers having fun with farming or reselling on the AH without forcing them into GDKP raiding to make fortune.
Let arena pumpers do arenas without having to raid for crucial PvE trinkets.
Let people do what they want to, instead of forcing them to do XY in order to do what they want to.

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To be honest, if a person has such limited time, then why do they shoot to be hardcore or even semi-hardcore raiders that require full consumables on every pull?
Cause let’s be honest, scrolls are not gonna make or break an encounter in 99% of the cases.

And the dailies thing was just a quick and easy solution, yeah I know it may be too boring for some, but there are plenty of options to make gold, but you do have to play the game a little outside of raising, and that’s totally fine. After all it’s not a lobby game.

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Considering how many gold farms are 200g+

You’re not capable of farming for 3-4 hours over the course of a week to sustain optimal ‘hardcore’ ‘semi-hardcore’ raiding expectation.

Get the flip out.

Bots getting banned and cant create new characters = everything becomes more expensive until real players start to farm things. Its just an issue with the player behavior on your server. Sooner or later people will start farming flowers and then it gets better. I would rather just collect and make my own flasks than beg for the bots to come back tbh.

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Yeah this thread confuses me.
Gold problems = not being able to swipe cheap?
Gtfo cheaters

The SWP dailies on the island only give about 110g, I dunno where you got 250g from. But then assume you do the Outland SWP ones too that’s another 50g or so, but involves a literal Outland world tour and is much less time effective.

If a haste pot was 23g nearly every boss pull is costing you 23-46g before any other consumes, you could easily reach a 1000g raid night in SWP on progress. Haste pots on Gehennas are 4gold.

yes the sunwell isle dailes give about 110g. i then goto shadowmoon valley to do the daily there (use the BT neck so no travel time) fly upto hellfire to do the roots quests then onto throne of KJ to do the 2 dailies there and finally fly upto netherstorm to do the attack plans daily. this gives another 110g. as dailies which dont take place on the isle give significantly more gold.

sunwell isle dailies take no more than 30 mins with a dps raiding char and the route i just mentioned takes 15-20 mins. the remaining 40 odd gold comes from random items you will pickup, you will get on average 5 motes of fire, 5 motes of mana. about 15g worth of netherweave cloth, arcane tomes + random greens etc

so the outland world tour as you put it is more time effective than sunwell isle.

im not saying haste potions aren’t expensive right now, clearly they are im pointing out obvious overblown exagerations in numbers people give. and if you feel the need to overblow numbers then the problem isn’t that big otherwise you wouldn’t feel the need to do it

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The Isle dailies are a 25minute roughly session, the outland ones take far more time and that’s assuming you have epic flying. I saw a Warglaive SWP Warrior yesterday on a 60% mount, doing the Outland dailies for him would be much less worthwhile.

And even then, you’re talking quite a lot of time doing dailies just to pay for being able to raid, the reality is that this is bad gameplay and would cause most people to outright quit the game, that’s the reality here. If haste pots were 23g on my server I would literally quit raiding.