I’m really happy you are enjoying it but I don’t think telling someone to “touch grass” is fair because they are having a different experience than you. I don’t have the “go fast fast fast” mentality, level up as quickly as possible, I still took my time and I’m out of content. I want more optional grinds. Stuff you can grind out in the first few weeks if you want that dont give player power but purely cosmetics, give me more options to spend the time i set aside for this expansion and am actually hyped on doing.
I don’t play the game how you play it and THAT IS OKAY… But I think it’s very fair for people who play the game like I do to ask for maybe something more optional grind-ey because guess what THAT IS WHAT I ENJOY IN THIS TIME! I am not speaking for everyone, I am bored, the forums is here for feedback. I am giving my input to a post that appeals to my experience. You can make a post about how its perfectly paced for you but you are not everyone.
To tell someone to play differently is not how to approach the situation. We all want to enjoy our experience and have a place to vent out frustrations. I want a challenge, an optional mountain to climb that is more than just one or two mount grinds that can be done in a few evenings. But to tell someone to get over it because you have a different experience does nothing but sow conflict.
You literally said it in like second sentence… You reached 80 in 4 hours… You skipped the entire journey…
And this is the problem with playerbase… You guys don’t know how to enjoy the game…
There is a beatiful world out there to explore. Look at the sky, at the sea, look at the beatiful views, the forests, trees, animals, look at the cool npcs.
Do you even read lores, quests? Do you take your time to think about these stories?
How about quests? Do you do them all? What about achievs? Are you trying to get as many of them as possible? Do you do some dungeons and bgs along the way? What about professions?
There is so much to do for days to come. But you guys always focus on the speedrun to max lvl and that’s all you people have in mind.
You don’t know how to enjoy these types of games. And it’s people like you who created bad image of WoD. Another expansion with such a rich lore and such a beatiful zones, that’s it’s crazy.
I have lots to do. I havent even done many dungeons yet. I am trying to farm all reputations, rares, and treasures, also working on my professions and farming for gold
I mainly do PvP. It blows my mind how people will complain they have nothing to do or that the dungeons are repetitive but dont touch pvp . Literally just do bgs. Every game is different as the people are different, so it never really gets boring.
There is a new rated pvp bg, why not start gearing and practising pvp before season starts if you are bored of dungeons and dont want to do any open world content or professions?
It sounds like a you problem. There is plenty to do. Try the delves at lvl 3. Have you run them all?
And Legion didnt have that much going on. It was a boring grind as much as any recent expansion. It was just all brand new and thats why nostalgia talking.
Delves in my opinion are much better than grinding for legendaries or world quests. We just need to wait until the start of the season for the rest of the levels to unlock.
Maybe there are some grinds from older expansions you havent done yet? This would be the perfect time then.
I still have stuff to do, havent finished all the quests yet so im working on that myself. I do feel its a bit long before season starts, but just trying to make the best out of it.
This. It’s nice to be able to dip in and out without feeling that you need to be consumed by the grind to be relevant. I’ve got other crap to do in my life, it’s wonderfully refreshing.
I’m not bored yet, no. I have been doing some Heroics with friends and working towards Loremaster during downtimes.
I have also tried to get some cosmetics like that Backpack from the Fishing weeklies.
I’m also planning to do some random BGs, farm some honor in case I would like to do PvP, get some honorable kills and honor levels.
So far I’m having a good time even if my main content usually is M+.
Love people that rush and race to get to 80 as fast as possible (4 hours lol…) and also gear up as fast as possible, and then start complaining “there is not much to do”. You did this to yourself, lol.
I take my time, enjoy the story and everything this new expansion has to offer. I am not close to being “done” with everything, and by the time i am, there are many more things that have opened up.
These complain-threads make me laugh, because most of it is self-inflicted. And if you hate the way the game is so much, just stop playing.
That is because the content that people actually want to do is heavily time-gated. So players who want a bit of challenge have nothing to do, hence the complaints.
I honestly thing this is commonly misunderstood.
It’s not like there is nothing to do for those people. There is just nothing to do that is fun for them. That’s the core of the issue.
There just are people, like me, who only enjoy raiding/pvp/m+ because leveling, grinding rep, pet battles, doing old achievements, etc is just boring to them.
Yes, you could very much argue that this game is just not a game for us then but I’d beg to differ because this issue doesn’t exist outside of pre-seasons. There’s always raiding/pvp/m+ to do, except for a few weeks where it’s locked/timegated.
TLDR: Nobody is close to be done with everything there is to do. A lot of people are just being done with things that are mandatory and don’t enjoy the other currently available content.
Still sounds like a problem that is a bit self-inflicted. The game officially released just 1 week ago. Next week, things will open up. I for one understand why they time-gate it somewhat, so that the more casual people actually have a chance not to be extremely behind and get ignored/declined in end-game content, as that is also something that is happening after every pre-season content.
It’s just 2 weeks. Like come on, how can you be that impatient. And yes, when you do not enjoy the LOTS of other stuff that IS available right now, then you are really limiting yourself in this game, and arguably this is not a game best suited for your needs. But then again. it’s just two weeks.
If people took a bit of time, instead of having the need to rush to max as soon as possible, this “problem” would not be an issue at all.
But i guess that is where we have different opinions.
There is content but not all of it will appeal to everyone.
I went through campaign only to level then dungeon spam to 80 (i did follow the story of it, no cut scenw skips) so it took me more than 4 hours but still fast compared to a lot of players.
I leveled an alt, geared main, professions on 3 chars.
This weekend i went through clearing side qs to completd loremaster and some treasures/rares for renown. I waited as i needed a break from questing.
If nothing other than getting into end game interests you then yeah there isnt much. Its something to either accept or find something better.
Game cant be 100% catered to one type of player.
Not saying this is OP (but some maybe who replied) but there are some players of this game who really need to consider if they actually like the game, or is it just the high of getting high rating/the fact of clearing hardest difficulty. It might explain why they have nothing to do and why they are displeased with the harder content being what they have already done but turned up in difficulty.
Maybe they loved it once upon a time but the changes are not for them.
I’m enjoying TWW with chill and no rush. On my main : I’m doing past level 80 TWW campaign, few PvP, a couple of dungeons and visiting delves. Furthermore, I’m working on my second level 80 (that I never did in the past, I mean leveling another char beside my main) by doing side quests in the new zones.
Also, I don’t focus on WoW, there are many other games to play right now.
This I hear all the time but I’m still not sold. I’d argue it would make next to no difference. The average casual player will, 2 to 3 weeks after season start, still be behind. Simply because the casual player does A) not play as much and B) play less difficult content and thus has worse gear.
So it’s just delaying the inevitable imo.
Yes, correct. People are just annoyed by having the carrot right in front of their nose but they can’t get it. Should be rather easy to understand why. You don’t need to sympathize with them but that’s just how it is.
It really doesn’t matter. People like that just don’t enjoy leveling/reading quest texts/etc. So it literally doesn’t matter whether they rush through it and stop playing for 2 weeks or if they “take their time” while not enjoying their time.
Those (us) people rush through the content because they DO NOT enjoy it. They just want to be done with it so they have their character prepared for the time the enjoyable content gets unlocked.
There are people who draw enjoyment from being challenged. Unfortunately nothing in WoW outside of raiding/pvp/m+ is challenging.
It’s very much possible that people love WoW but they’re just bored by the majority of the content because the majority of the content simply doesn’t provide any challenge whatsoever.
On the flip side you could also ask the question if people who don’t do mythic raiding +15 keys and are above 2200 rating in arenas and rbgs (all at the same time) really enjoy the game or just the leisure and cozyness of questing.
WoW has a lot of different content as of now and you don’t and probably can’t even enjoy every single aspect of it.
I am curious, do you think you would enjoy it if the leveling process itself would take much longer & be more difficult? Say, it’d take at least a week to level to max with regular playing everyday, and mobs would be challenging to the point where sometimes you’d need to group up or play really well to kill them.
And once you hit max level, you could go straight to the mythic dungeons and onwards.
Do you think that’d keep you entertained more or would you see the harder leveling as more of a chore than an enjoyable grind?
Completely agree with what you are saying. It is indeed so that the game cannot cater to everyone at the same level and pace. And that is fine. I am one of those filthy casuals and i do enjoy everything at a much lower pace, while trying harder content later on. It sometimes frustrates me to be a bit behind, but it’s my own problem, not the game’s intentions / release schedule.
And exactly that (works both ways) is why i think people should not complain this early into a new expansion for the lack of content. The challenging stuff is released fairly quickly, but if you rush through everything asap (e.g. 4 hours to lvl 80 as OP states), this is a result that you, sadly, have to accept (and not even that long).
And if it that much an issue for people, they could prepare themselves next time by starting to play a bit later in the release, to prevent them from feeling bored.
I do understand the feeling, but i really think it should not be a reason to complain this early.
And that’s completely fine. Everyone plays at his/her own pace.
Is this a good reason to timegate the game though? Assuming you’ll do something like a +2 in the first week M+ gets unlocked while other people already do +10s so they get a mythic vault in their first ID. Wouldn’t you already feel “behind” again? Not only will they be full heroic track geared within the first/second week of the season but they will also already have 1 to 2 mythic track items.
So I think the feeling of being behind won’t change that much, would it?
Kinda agree. It’s just 2 weeks and we’ll live through it. But there’s just this tiny chance that Blizzard might overthink their ways and shorten the timegating for the next expansion. But who knows. It’s maybe worth mentioning once or twice, as feedback, but not worth spamming the forums for.
Yes, this is what could happen. But it would also result in a loss of money for Blizzard. My friends list barely logs in as of now. Everyone is just waiting for M0 release. They already paid for their sub though so some of them already mentioned the thought of not pre-purchasing the next expansion again and just wait for 2 to 3 weeks after lunch to re-sub to the game.