Hello!
Could you tell me if there is any difference in terms of performance between Radeon 5700 XT 8 Gb and Radeon 5700 XT 16 Gb?
Hoping for 60+ fps with 5120x2880 resolution and maximum settings (shadow / liquid / SSAO) on iMac 2020.
Also could Intel Core i9 CPU give an in-game performance boost over Intel Core i7 CPU?
Thank you!
The second one has more memory than the other, that’s the only difference.
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The video ram difference may make a difference in things like texture performance, but I am not personally aware of how WoW utilizes video RAM.
As for the i9? Absolutely. However I don’t really feel like it’s necessary. A modern i7 will do just fine, though there are some locations in the game that will run poorly no matter how much you throw at it. Turn MSAA off and use SMAA when doing your upscaling. At max or near max settings I get locked 60 in most locales with
AMD Ryzen 5 2600 (released in 2018 for context)
RAM: 32.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1066MHz (15-15-15-36)
4095MB NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 (Gigabyte)
Installed on a secondary SSD with my main on an SSD.
Elwynn forest, for example, will run poorly no matter what.
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I recently went from 5700XT to 3070ti and saw no difference. I play in 1440p and my FPS fluctuates anywhere from 120 when sitting around in the sanctum to barely 30 on a raid boss. And that’s not even on max settings. This game is almost entirely carried by your CPU, so I’d rather bet on that.
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No chance. That’s a mid-range old-gen card, it was never intended for 5k gaming.
If the poster above ranges 30-120 fps at 1440p, you can expect 7-30 fps at 5k with full settings.
No.
The i9 adds more cores but no significant single thread speed; WoW won’t take advantage of it. Your best bet is more likely an overclocked i5, but if you’re into Macs… you won’t be doing that.
Personal recommendation; run the game at 2560x1440 instead of 5k. This is a 4:1 pixel mapping and should be fairly clean.
Asking any hardware to do 5k gaming is a stretch and you need to be prepared to buy the biggest graphics card on the market. There’s a reason upscaling technologies are becoming popular; it’s because all those people with 4k screens can’t keep their fps up.
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Just saw a friend playing on iMac with 5k resolution. He has Core i7 and Radeon Pro 5500 XT 8 Gb, not even a 5700. Fps was around 40 with max settings and 60 if he set shadow quality to ultra (instead of ultra high), liquid detail to fair (instead of ultra) and SSAO to good (instead of ultra). It was in the open world though, not in a raid.
So I kinda hoped for an even better performance with a 5700 card.
I’ve just bought a desktop with a 12th gen i9 and 3080ti (doesn’t arrive until tomorrow)
I’d be lucky to get 60 fps @5k on that.
I play at 1440p though so it’ll be running like a dream
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I mean, it’ll be better than a 5500 for sure; what I want to impress on you is that the 5700xt is:
- a mid-range enthusiast card
- nearly three years old
…and as such, there are better cards out there. They are all stupidly expensive because the market is currently broken, but they exist. The 5700xt probably isn’t cheap either, but if you are asking for good 5k raiding performance, I would suspect you have to go higher.
Anecdotally, you’re looking at 30-50% the fps of open world when the action’s on. Glancing at benchmarks, the 5700xt looks to be roughly 80% faster than a 5500 - in other words, it’s not going to compensate for the fps drop of a raid. Strongly recommend asking your friend to run through at least LFR and see what happens. You could also get him to run some monitoring such that you can identify whether the CPU or GPU is the bottleneck; one of them will be 100% maxed out, while the other isn’t.
But if that goes well, who’m I to deny it? 
Maybe it’ll surprise me. I do think you need to get that proper raiding example, because 5k gaming is hard, and therefore rare, and as such nobody really has good answers.
And bear in mind that if a 5700xt does manage WoW at 5k and 60fps; that’s because WoW is a lightweight compared to a modern triple-A title. You won’t be able to throw a more modern game at that GPU and get a good result.
Yarp.
WoW is more CPU heavy, than it is GPU.
In general yeah, it does put a lot on the CPU; which often helps systems with a low spec graphics card, because a lot of CPUs are overspecced for marketing reasons
But at 5k… insufficient data for me to guess. I’m mostly going on that being the equivalent of 6x 1080p screens, or 1x 1080p screen at 360 fps…
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Well, GPU’s at 91%, while CPU’s at 51%. So I guess it’s the GPU that’s doing most of the heavy lifting.
I would never game on a mac
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Eh, I’ve got a 2080 super and a 9900k @ 5 ghz. If I max absolutely everything, I get like 60 fps in ardenweald but I play on 2560*1440. The 2080 gets close to 100% usage, CPU usage is at like 35ish% for WoW, don’t think WoW will go higher than that since it doesn’t really do multicore well. But I don’t ever play on these settings, I like my computer to be quiet, not the fans going crazy because the gpu is going hard. I’d never even think of raiding on max settings, it would likely result in a slideshow.
edit: Oh right, you can use resolution scale. I get 20 fps in ardenweald with everything on max settings when I scaled it to 5k, lol and WoW’s cpu usage dropped to 11% when I cranked it up. A 2080 super can’t do 5k on max settings and get 40 fps in the open world, so I doubt he was actually using max settings and getting 40 fps. A 2080 super is quite powerful compared to a 5500.
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Surprisingly it’s true
That’s in classic, lol. It’s also not with everything cranked up to the max(AA is set to nothing). I get 90-100 fps in classic with everything cranked to max and resolution scale @ 5k.
I thought you were talking about retail since you didn’t mention it being classic.
You will absolutely not get anywhere near that kind of performance on retail with those computers you’re using.
Yeah, it’s classic, should have mentioned it. AA’s not making much of a difference at 5k though.
Yeah, no surprise really. 5500 is not a fast card. I’m amazed it’s doing as well as it is; I run 1440p on a card that’s only about 25% behind that, and I am used to raiding framerates in the 30s.
The good news is a meatier GPU will give you better performance because the CPU has plenty to offer. But I do suspect you’ll find you cannot raid at 60fps at 5k on the one you suggested. In fact I’d bet some gold on it
Ohh… that does make a difference. There is a LOT less going on in Classic visuals. They got upgraded a bit, but they’re still as dense as they were in 2005.
And yeah, don’t waste fps on antialiasing at 4k or higher; you’ll probably make the image worse
Playing any game in high ress for example this 5k with max graphic is worst experience than playing 1440p 240hz with over 200fps and setting set to 8/10 or 6/10 that just my opinion after playing wow for over 15 years
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Don’t underestimate the power of RAM, check if you it set to it’s highest speed.
Mine reset itself back to 2133 MHz and wondered how my performance was so bad in some games. (Rtx 2070 super gigabyte, Ryzen 5 3600)
Set it back to 3200 mhz and it made a huuuuuge difference.
how do you check/ do this?