Personal Loot never resulted in me clearing multiple complete LFRs and getting a total of zero loot. I’d always walk out with at least one item per character/LFR, sometimes more.
I know about the claims that it’s the same loot distribution, but that doesn’t match my experience – and there is no source code for us to look at, so nobody actually knows how it worked. There seemed to be some form of BLP with Personal Loot that lead to a fairer distribution of loot on a smaller scale (per group, not over the course of 100,000 LFR runs).
Group Loot has no benefits for the average player. People still ask for loot, we now have people rolling for the purpose of selling loot they won, and all I see is more strife and anger than before.
Only because before there was no loot window making it easy to see who got which item. You had to scroll through the chat to see what even dropped in the first place. If there had been a list telling after each boss kill who got which items with PL, ppl would have cried all the same about “why did that high gear player get loot but I didn’t?”, “Why did they roll need like everybody else?”, “Why is the player doing 50% of the groups dps getting loot while I who was dead for the duration of the whole fight with my green gear aren’t getting MY items?”
I prefer Group Loot greatly to Personal Loot. During SL I mostly got the wrong items from bosses and ppl were never willing to trade; now I can at least roll on the items I actually need and I’m overall more happy with what I get out of my time.
I don’t agree, I can go full runs and get nothing. On average under PL I got two items per full clear.
The only thing that makes raid gear bearable this season is the bullion vendor. I don’t care about not getting loot because I know I can just buy it. Meanwhile M+ is showering me in loot, it’s PL and I get drops more often and we trade drops where possible.
1st week of this patch was a total @$^ for me with items …
Especially the weapon since i didn’t got a single 1 from …either Raid-Dungeons or any CATACHE —Timewalking (Using some 480)
6 or 7 Items from 11 Alts that i have in total from Raiding …( i Still haven’t cleared all bosess with this char)
My rogue lost a dagger to a lock ., i was like wtf since i was the single Rogue (I was doing Lfr ) Yep another beta state .
At the end seeing the 1st week .
Going to take a break
1st 6 Mythic + 1 item ( Thanks but no Thanks )
One of my alts got every item for the Cloack slot …509 ilv …506 ilvl and again another 509 ilvl… a yes the fun one …got 1st a 489 cloack from the Weekly boss followed by a 502 ilvl item from the weekly quest …
Let’s face it i’m not going to play 4/5 months to gear up just for the new expansion …
I’m sorry, but you are not entitled to the loot more, just because it’s a bigger upgrade for you. He put in the same amount of work you did to get the item, and he won it in a fair roll-off. It makes no difference if he needs it for gear, transmog, or even disenchant mats. There are 0 reasons why you should have it and he should not.
Main issue isnt that people need for tmog. or for disenchanting. but that they need and then sells it just because they can… so thats what we try to solve here. can we get rid of such greed in a difrent way than just flat out removing group loot or gold trading over realms
And why couldn’t they? Like I said, they did the same amount of work you did, they won it in a fair roll, it is their choice what they do with the item. It is their item. Why shouldn’t they be able to do with it anything they please?
I hope blizz fix in game. Like game bot check players, if which had high ilevel, cant get loot from roll low ilevel.
Give first for low-gear players get upgrade ilevel. Would better.
But if low-gear players dont want this loot. When let they high players get loot
I get hit a lot as a tank, so my repair bill will be more than a DPS or healer who play properly and don’t get hit by every mechanic. So yes, I need and greed on everything I am able to and sell it to the vendor to offset some of those said costs but I’ll still always come out in the negative.
If someone messages me for an item then I’ll typically sell it for 100g, which is slightly above the vendor cost for most items.
I’ve also been on the other end where I’ve needed something as an upgrade and someone who doesn’t need it at all will roll and win. You just can’t let it affect you, it’s just some gear in a game.
You have to be lucky to get a weapon on the first week. Unless you are spamming content.
Sowee, what if tanks wipe raids, should they pay for repair? Or bad healers? Or bad DPS? Raid is collective responsibility, you ain’t special. Tanks and healers using their privilege in form of getting to LFR faster, you can use that time for learning professions or doing wq for gold
There are no repercussions, so this problem only exists in your head.
Something is stopping you from demanding 100k-500k gold from others for items you rolled on but don’t need.
You need to sort yourself out, again, there isn’t anything that is stopping you from doing the same thing, but for some reason, you think that there is.
you don’t have to run the lower tier content if you do not get any upgrades from it, what you are saying is the same as taking the last bottle of water from a market and pouring it down the drain in front of a dehydrated person. X’D
The best option is to never buy from them and instead add them to blacklists or pressure organizers to add them to blacklists or to organize yourself and immediately punish the behaviour
As for people that need on gear lower then theirs without the intent of reselling it, so basically where they consider transmog to be a valid reason to need roll; that’s just the consequence of player power being seasonal where cosmetics are forever.
PL would help tho yes most of this exists because they goofily thought people wanted to be locked into the worst loot option available in the history of wow
<Tinfoil.hat> because they knew people would be ninja’d, take longer to gear and thus be subbed longer</Tinfoil.hat>
