How did Blizzard again manage to make a quest that you cannot complete, because a full raid is sitting in front of the Kara entrance griefing/corpse camping everyone for 11+ hours now (tried it at 8am and now at 7pm the SAME group is still there)…
You have to be alive to finish the quest, GJ!!!
And dont come with your blabla pvp server, that is just dumb, I am happy with world pvp but this is just so badly designed the quest and as usual blizzard wont do anything against griefers.
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But that’s the truth.
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bruh where were you while team seal six camped every raid for the previous 4phases ?
cheh
And people wonder why i hate any and all people who say ”I enjoy PvP”
You are all scumm. The worst people.
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People are always going to camp stuff like this.
Either get used to it. Or sugjest to blizz that they make a small zone outside of raids/instances a neutral zone.
You are delusional if you think that we should allow and even incentivise a crowd of 80 people to camp the most important must-do quest of the patch, PvP server or not
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Most people going to pvp server not because they like pvp, but just because it’s more populated. It’s time for blizzard to make an optional war mode in classic. Seriousely. (maybe with some limitations that it can be switched on/off not more often then every 3 days)
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Its enough if you are only able to toggle on/off in capital cities. 3 days is kinda extreme
#MoreChangesCrowd
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Yeah, i think you are right.
Which is ironic, because the pve servers would be more populated if the pve players actually stop following the masses and went to where they “belong”.
No, then it would just become a pve server basically. With no risk of any kind.
I understand the frustration people feel towards world pvp. But thats what it is, in all its glory and imperfections. Sometimes you get camped, and sometimes you dont.
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The main issue is that most Alliance players are PvE andies that have nothing to do in PvP servers.
Not only are they suffering because PvP happens in PvP servers, but they’d rather cry here than group and fight. It’s honestly well deserved for them but it sucks for the few PvP players playing alliance.
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Correction: most players in general are PvE andies
Why would people group and fight if that’s not what they want and not what they play for?
Because it’s a PvP server…
If they don’t plan on fighting for open world objectives but just roll over and cry every time they get killed at the entrance of a raid or during an event then it’s dumb and ruins the experience for everyone.
Just play on a PvE server then and they won’t have this issue.
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No it’s not dumb. There’s a clear problem: PvE players, which are the vast majority of the game’s population, are locked on PvP servers. Why that happened to begin with is now irrelevant, you can read what Bulka said if you want to know why, but it doesn’t matter.
What matters is that people do not like being forced to do what they do not want to. So there are 2 solutions: either let people transfer to normal realms or introduce warmode
You had to choose a PvE server if you didn’t want to PvP.
Why are the PvP servers always more populated if no one likes to PvP ?
That doesn’t make sense. You even have a special warning when you pick a PvP server, telling you you won’t be able to transfer.
There’s plenty mediocre decisions we can blame Blizz for, but this one is on the players 100%.
I agree with you.
The irony in this is that alliance on Living flame is the only one who has a pvp guild:P
(Seal team six)
I can guarantee you this goes both ways. The amount of time i’ve seen horde cry about a small group of alliance ganking at the gate…2/3 raid groups getting gatekept by 15-20 alliance. Horde outnumbers them heavily, but nah lets just cry in chat instead of grouping up and BULLDOZING over them.
It kinda is. You chose a pvp server, and get salty because pvp happens. There is an EXTREMELY easy option out of this, they just refuse to take it for some reason.
A server they chose themselves, ofc.
I completely agree with you, the majority are pve players, but why do they repeatedly choose pvp servers? Are they all sheeps?
Its not though, they did 0 research and chose without thinking. Now they face the consequenses.
I dont mind letting people transfer from pvp → pve realms, completely fine. But warmode can F off:)
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F off with your warmode. If you don’t like pvp just gtfo to pve servers.
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Because they want to play with friends and most part of community. At least make a dungeon/raid crosserver and it will be fine to play on PvE (they can do it very easely because it was done in wotlk classic). Separating people by server isn’t good idea in 2025, they should either do 1 server with some kind of warmode (probably with more limitations then in retail) or add full dungeon/raid crosserver
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There’s already a warmode, it’s called normal realm where you can /pvp anytime.
I have friends that play exclusively pve, and guess what? It’s not my thing so I roll on pvp alone or not. Most of the people that play on pvp realms are not there only for the pop, the competitions or friends, most of them genuinely enjoy the chaos of pvp servers.
WoW is pretty much one of the few mmo out there that provides pvp and particularly wpvp. I don’t play any other mmo because they don’t provide that. It’s the main reason I’ve never touched ff14 for example.
So please guys, I know, you want to express yourselves, but there is a separation between pvp realms and normals for a reason. Choose wisely when selecting a realm and please don’t bring your very out of line ideas on pvp servers. To each their own.
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Most of pvp realms that were in classic-2019 in year or two became mono-faction. Maybe that thing proves that people come to pvp realms not for world pvp, but just because of bigger community? People just want to stay on server that is most active for their faction, nobody cares about wpvp, faction balance or something like this