You are replying so fast and talking so much. What’s going on at the gas station? Boss gave you a little time off from the pump?
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I already disproven that, i said EXCLUSIVE to group buffs.
Build variety can be fixed by proper balance, damage profiles, and utility like stealth, mobility off healing etc.
No, YOU are objectively wrong.
Game was in state without any single buff. Balance wasn’t any better but classes felt dull for some ppl. There isn’t any bad if you have monk, dh, dru, mage in your raid group for buffs. There are enough places to pick at least any single class to the raid. It’s not bad. What about m+ - there are things much more important than buffs. For example, at this week soothe of Druid or hunter would be much more useful than dh buff. Should we delete this utility, too? Or rogue shroud? I’m not even talking about bl and cr which are mandatory to any group. What about druids roar and warlock portal in raids? They are not passive as buffs but they increase success of the group not a less than buffs and they are unique for those classes, too. In case of “bring player not the class” we should delete all utility from the game and give them similar opportunities to make dmg so some classes won’t be better on st, another on cleaves and another on aoe. Class will matter in situations till we have any difference between them. Buffs are not problem of the current wow at all. If you failed instance because you didn’t have dh buff… Then it’s not because of dh buff.
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Like opening this thread
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There is only so much utility to give around my guy, with out making new types of utility (which the debuffs also fall under) we would have MoP balance where everyone has everything, and nothing feels in any way different (except vissualy) from other classes, and makes the game booring, and flavorless.
Good to know that you don’t actually have an argument.
No one even said anything about giving everything to everyone.
“Most of the time that people disagree with me has more to do with the fact that they either strawman, or misinterpret what i said because ultimately they do not agree with it. And that’s fine, you can be wrong if you want to.”
Just a few posts above.
This^ Me and a lot of ppl were missing it in bfa and were happy to see dru buff back. But it’s first time I see any complain about buff existence in the wow history…
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Ahhhhhhhhh, Sorry, for a second i tought i was speaking with a sentient being, my bad my bad, just a troll bait bot, your code works as follows : " Give cringe take, ignore counter take and valid arguments, and deny other party arguments being arguments, proceed to bait more ppl into the thread only to receive attention mama or papapa never gave you, hence you are this sad excuse of software written by someone even sadder and more miserable"
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And when the argument is none, they just turn to calling troll.
Just as it always happens.
The thing is, i’m right, and your personal like of group buffs don’t disprove any of the objective points about the reality of how they actually work in practice is.
I’m trying to suggest stuff that actually makes sense and improves the gameplay, and the best way you people can think of “build variety” Is group buffs, just pathetically low effort.
Name one objective thing about this thread, and likewise your personal dislike matters not, because if blizzard will cater to ppl like you, god save this game.
Ok. Every class has its own perk. Pick and choose.
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I will not repeat myself. Bye.
As for roar reply.
That would at least be better than only a few classes have them.
As i said before, either everyone has one, or no one does.
I would much rather have no one, but i am fine with everyone, but way less powerful, so they are just there for the flavor basically and a very minor buff.
that would imply you had any constructive arguments that were not personal bias against the buffs/ debuffs to begin with, easy cop out to pretend you had 
But who are you suggesting this to? No one here agrees with you. You are wrong, by a common consensus amongst your peers. Even if you do think you are right, objectively speaking, if the majority thinks you are wrong, you are wrong.
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Well no one say the majority is necessarily right. Sometimes maybe, many times, not really.
I hate to break it to you, but that’s just how life works
Amen sir! 
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This is an RPG. THere are supposed to be differences between the classes.
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Except no.
The truth is not a democracy.
I want you to imagine if doctors had to give medicine based on popularity.
The argument that the majority has always the final say is short sighted.
But they do give me medicine based on popularity. Thas why, for example , they try to upsell you Nurofen instead of the cheaper active substance Ibuprofen.