Yay, another guide! I’m so hyped now.
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This guide is very based.
Shame about your preggo one. Keep up the good work!
Those bloody TRP sliders are the most irritating for me, by far.
I understand why people might want to fill them in, but for me on the other side - I now know a significant amount about your character without even talking to them. If your character is dishonest and you’ve gone and filled in “Dishonest 9” and “Honest 1” or something like that, great. I will now spend the entire rest of the RP trying to ignore I ever saw it. I should not know this.
in my personal opinion they significantly impact RP in a negative way. There is no redeeming factor about them.
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What exactly is the difference between 17 and 20 on the personality trait bar? At least maxed out values to one end or the other gives a strong general idea of what characters are like.
Guilty as charged.
To be fair to read most of them you have to scroll down someone’s TRP page profile. So really you’ll only see most of them and have “everything revealed” if you actually go looking for them.
I see them as no different from other information I have to metagame out of my char’s head that I know, but wouldn’t otherwise. Like Titles. Zhuangzhi has no idea you’re a lord or lady by looking at you, or an ex-champion of PALADINARENA championships. Yet this information pops up if I hover over you. We always have to metagame this information out, because to be honest, you should never be able to tell someone’s class or title on sight unless they’re a death knight or demon hunter (in respects to class…).
The sliders I see as a way of succinctly identifying some broad facets of someone’s personality, which can be used as hooks. In a way, they’re quite nice because they quickly communicate something, but not too much. People bemoan the “but what is the difference between a 3-17 honest and dishonest and a 5-15???” that’s the beauty of it. You don’t know. All you know is it’s some kind of magnitude, but you have no specific references to enter your head. It’d ruin things more if the numbers were prefixed by specifics like “1 honesty = this character always lies” because then they would tell you how a character behaves quite precisely (or they’d communicate information that is inaccurate if the character doesn’t behave like that).
Yeah, it can be frustrating if people use them to metagame rather than hook. However the sliders aren’t the issue there, it’s the metagamer. Metagamers will use anything in a profile (or the game) to metagame you if that’s there approach. It matters not. The only way to avoid them is to remove TRP altogether, but even then they’d still use your class/gear/inspect to metagame you.
The sliders saves writing tons of information about personality about generic factors (like generosity, calmness) so you can focus on writing about unique stuff and just have the generic stuff answered in a round about way in a quick glance.
In terms of practicality, I don’t think sliders make for a messy profile. At times I use them and at times I don’t. They’re specifically located in a certain place and serve a specific purpose, so they’re easily skimmed over and avoided.
I’ve taken a new approach to titles as of late where I just make them excessively vague. It’s enjoyable to keep people guessing.
I am not saying they are inherently bad for everyone, they are an annoyance of mine. I don’t judge people for it or anything, not saying they are wrong either!
I usually go far the other way - Everything on my profile should be visible by looking at her and no more (also commissions because I enjoy getting them and have to put them somewhere).
On your metagaming point, some people are just experts at (accidentally) doing it. I will often switch my entire TRP profile to remove any mention of Warden (as well as in game armour). The number of people that still somehow recognise my char as a Warden IC is sometimes irritating.
Summing it all up, I do enjoy the profiles that are more designed to be “hooks” than anything else, vague titles and everything else like that.
Think XRP comes with first glances nowadays, so there is a nice “out” from the slider thing for me.
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In regards to character profiling, as of late in regards to WoW role-play I’ve taken to creating character profiles that are inherently designed for specific situations and events due to a lack of time for social gatherings or ‘second life emulation’ role-play.
I realise, and I’m just saying this now to clarify, that a lot of my points or preferences, or even jibes are squarely and more than likely aimed at people who only or primarily partake in social role-play, which is fine. I enjoy it on and off. Not every waking day of a character’s life can be intuitive, exciting and refreshingly new.
Anyway, not responding to anything or anyone specifically, but just felt like rambling.
How can some one -not- recognise the famous Warden Malace.
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![:unamused:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/unamused.png?v=6" ":unamused:")
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Yes. The accidental metagamer thing can be annoying, it really depends how its done and when as to how I respond. This character is a bit of a wily old philosopher, so where it’s done he’ll often attempt to engage the individual in a round of questions to tease out how they knew, so it offers an IC out for them if they can supply reasonable answers to my questions.
The priest thing I can let slide occasionally. When RPing I wield the red crane staff, and always am wearing red clothing, so if an individual has any experience of pandaren culture they may be able to deduce from a glance I’m a priest of Chi-ji. That said Zhuangzhi will react to such things joyously and attempt to probe the individual as to when they first decided to learn so much about pandaren culture and and ask about their experiences of it.
I have had someone identify him as a philosopher on a glance though, which is quite bizarre. I understand this if we’ve spoken for a bit, as Zhuangzhi speaks in a manner that is quite poetic, full of analogy and metaphor and asks a LOT of questions (usually rhetorical). Even so, to deduce that’s he’s a philosopher as opposed to simply being quite quizzical/senile would require some very astute deduction.
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That sound even like a nice hook to start an interaction!
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I always try to go for hooks rather than ignoring if someone metagames my char like that. One situation may lead to RP (which may be pleasant, may be awkward), the other response has no chance. So i like to offer people the opportunity.
Its why I like playing a character who asks a lot of questions. It’s very easy to draw people in and soften up those first few exchanges! It’s a shame elixir of tongues doesn’t make you understandable also. The amount of horde who have had me start gibbering at them in common must confuse them!
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Why do I keep coming back to this thread? ![:laughing:](https://d1bg94bbsh66ji.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/laughing.png?v=6" ":laughing:")
It makes me giggle every time.
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I haven’t followed the topic very closely, but just as a tip, you can hide your class completely in TRP if you so desire. Simply copy-paste invisible symbols where you’d usually write a custom class name. Note that regular spaces don’t work.
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is that a new thing?
because it used to be you could make the class or race blank by pressing space once, the addon would consider this a valid input and thus make your class/race/name blank
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I just did it today and put spaces with the space bar.
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It might have changed, then. Whenever I tried using only a space in the past, it did not work.
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It worked originally but then with the BFA (I THINK) update it stopped working until I suggested they add it back and they added it with an update a while ago.
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