Guys I have a morality question and I need to know

So I am of the following opinions:
-What people choose to play or be in an online game doesn’t reflect their personality or their actual behavior in real life.

-Games are meant to be enjoyed and not sweated in unless you intentionally want to (ergo ranked and the like)

-If something in a game makes you unbearably rage, either you learn to deal with it or stop playing. Otherwise you risk becoming a unfun person to be with. (exceptions exist but don’t dictate the norm)

With all this said, me and a close mate of mine cannot seem to agree on a heated debate I’ll call it.

The main question is, does playing an “annoying” pick in a video game say a thing about how good or bad of a person you are in real life.

I believe no, because unless you are hacking or otherwise breaking the rules, you are using the tools given to you in a manner you want to within the game, and playing something you find fun for whatever reason, since fun is subjective. And putting a moral value to pixels is a bit silly.

My friend is convinced that the players should simply “not play” whatever is deemed annoying by him I guess, stuff like rogues or stealth users in general, something akin to like teemo in league if that says anyting to you guys. He believes the players should simply not use it as it is “unhonerable” and “cowardly”.

I would LOVE to know what you guys think on this topic, please feel free to add specifics.

Is he a RPer or something?

Please on this doll, where did the latest rogue shank your friend?

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Absolutley if you play something I like = Good, if you play something I don’t like = bad. :wink:

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No he doesn’t get rp and think of the weird people when brought up.

Many moons ago where he was a pvp paladin and pvp was “peak”

I did get the vibes that he was a pally after calling rogue dishonorable…

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I don’t think it says anything about the player, unless they continually swap to have whatever is top of the DPS charts. Then it says a lot about them.

In my opinion prowl and vanish are in the game, so to use them is playing the game as intended and it’s not “dishonourable”.

Years ago an old martial arts instructor used to teach us how to fight honourably in contests. But on other nights, he used to teach us how to fight dirty to survive being a tight spot. Knowing the difference and acting accordingly is the important thing for me.

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An interesting distinction and one that I agree with.

Unfortunately I am somewhat bias since, yknow im feral and without prowl I’d have a bit of a harder time.

Yes and no. In theory, this is true, but I’ve seen people reveal their true nature as well in online games because there were no consequences of living out their lousy behavior, or they managed to amass a large enough echo-chamber to amplify their desires and revel in their behavior. So I’d be rather wary with this statement.

I agree that games are meant to be enjoyed.
But this joy for some people truly means trying to be #1 in said game, or clearing the most challenging content.

Agreed.
Most games have sufficient systems in place to help you deal with something.
But sometimes, walking away or blocking/ignoring is the best solution.

Well, it depends I suppose.
Look at the points addressed, and how you cannot form a general statement.
Sure, it might apply to the majority of players, but there’s always going to be outliers.
So the question is more going to be, is your friend an outlier, or not?

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I think it can say something about someone, but not necessarily so, and trying to be all black and white there is rather pointless :wink:

I do think it has been diluted with the ease of leveling. When leveling was more painful and people usually had only one character at max level I noticed certain classes seemed to attract certain personality types more often, I thought that was interesting.

That said, I’ve met quite a few players who engaged in behaviour I thought beforehand of as ‘not very nice’ and they turned out to be great people. So I reserve judgement there these days :smile:

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This is also understandable, but when I say he gets mad I’m saying he insults them to the core, like as people, no longer as “players” but stuff like insulting their love lives or their personality traits sepcifically that they may or may not enjoy being push overs if you catch the drift. stuff like that, and that at the top of his lungs while slamming keyboard, only to tell us he didnt, even though we heard it.

Personally I think he might need a break, because I don’t think the playerbase cares what he deems “honerable behavior” or not, yknow?

When someone gets that angered by (usually rather harmless) actions of others in a game, I suspect they either have issues they need to work through or they have too much crap going on in the real world. I don’t know if either of those might apply in his case :slight_smile:

i suspect/think that as well but he then goes on a tangent how I “invalidate his feelings” even though I’m just trying to help him maybe have a better grasp of where the anger might be coming from. Personally I’m also just getting tired cause we tend to argue alot about this difference in opinion and it’s getting encombersome

PvP is just a cursed game mode in of itself, especially in a game that isn’t mainly designed for it and works perfectly fine without it.

PvP works by annoying others, killing them, stopping them from reaching their goals simply to reach ones own goals, in the Open world even more so than instanced content. It’s nothing but toxic, so I generally don’t expect ppl who PvP and enjoy it to be kind people in RL.

I can imagine! I’d go pfffff myself. My personal strategy in cases like these is weaponised positivity, always, always seeing the bright side of things. Someone like that would love for you to join in but it dampens my happy mood so I decided to go the other way. Usually annoys them, but it may stop the complaining lol.

Depends, are you roleplaying a character? then initially I am drawn to no, you might still be, but you are likely just playing a character.

Are you unironically treating people poorly for the sake of treating others poorly or making yourself feel better? Then I would take that as an indicator that this is likely a personality trait of the player and I would assume overlap with IRL behaviour.

My exact approach, issue is, he then feels “neglected” and I feel bad because he is my friend and just ignoring him is also something I don’t really condone between friends.

No, purely if someone plays a character that simply has a “annoying” tool kit, but htey are just utilizing it well and trying to win, that is already, abusing the freedom given and being a worse person for it in his opinion.

If the rogue can’t use his stealth then his pally can’t use holy power.
:man_shrugging:t3:
Bit arbitrary but hey ho

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For him to grow aware of the fact his actions and words may affect the people around him negatively, and learn to behave in a different way is also important as a friend, it’s not just you and how you behave :slight_smile:

Your friends a snowflake. He wouldn’t have lasted to level 30 in classic.

Rules are - In pvp you do what you can do win, period. No excuses.

When you lose you suck it up and move on.

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I appreciate the advice given, tahnk you for your help :dracthyr_heart:

A bit extremely said but yeah I agree.