What is going on??? random bgs is a pain…
half of the time they are russian Premades
It isn’t just russian premades, all premades are a plague. 
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How odd, yesterday we defeated a russian “premade” 
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We call that battle of toad and viper 
at start of expansion random bgs were casual, but last few months half of them are premade… why is people so tryhard at the casual bgs lol…
also, premades should always match other premades, o almost always…
right now, is easier and more casual to play rated bgs than rnadoms…
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ok, now i found that there is an addon and everyone is exploiting it to queue together
cool…
It has been an issue for a multiple Addons and Seasons,at the Start the PvP interest just peaks learning gearing trying stuff out therefore way more maps. You were not bound to face them the entire time but ofc nearing the Mid of Season it has become worse and rn its truly just dreading. S2 start will look similiar peak > slow downfall >rope
Its a neverending Cycle which needs to be fixed by Blizz enforce PrevsPre and i guarantee you it wont be the pug/solo queue thats gonna have increased waiting times.
It isnt used on Eu only Us where like 12 Premades Snipe and Dodge each other to Pugstomp and open half empty Maps with declined queues. Here they just dodge each other by looking b-net/stream.
I mean, my first epic bg and I joined where Alliance had 23 ppl and horde had 40. Is it rly just a coincidence? xd
Its just hilarious that some ppl say they never encounter issues, but I seem to face those issues alot. I might just be one of the unluckiest ppl here xd
Just, everytime I try to do bgs, it seems to always keep showing me why I stopped doing them.
Yeah if a group doesn’t get Qpop they cancel and requeue map opens still and rn theres not much reinforcements joining intime.
The People saying they don’t encounter these issues are playing 1 bg per Week and think they now have a Phd in it. Or the ones doing this.
Ya, Alliance is just at its worst right now. Not worth it at all.
Horde has always multiple 5stacks in one Map meanwhile u have well not the best Set up in the nearest.
I knew i should have just grinded that Ki Bg Id to the fullest, but no i had to spam queue Epics just for perma migraine 
Lets pray season start brings in a few days or even weeks of joy.
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Yeah no. I played epic bgs as actively as never before throughout January and the start of February, easily 10-20 rounds a day every day recruiting members for a community.
I would encounter synced premades once or twice a day at most on average. On some
days not at all and sometimes up to 3 times.
Then I would just switch factions or leave and play a game without premades.
They are in 15-20% of rounds at most. That includes the rounds where a team starts outnumbered because of invite dodging by sync premades.
A minor annoyance that can be dodged somewhat easily if you know how.
It’s not that I don’t encounter them, they just aren’t as big of a deal, even though it was better if they were gone.
Nope, most rounds are very much winnable with the average alliance team.
Although I agree that the horde has more players who can carry a round and play EBGs often.
Ya maybe ask yourself why that is, you the guy that is known since years now to have barely queued alone,why is it that you have no competition when you q as a grp maybe just maybe this queue is rigged.
You also seem to never see the other 5 stacks in all your Bgs as well. And on Top of that you than come here ohh idk what you guys mean i win every round all random people all ez farms 
Where are my opponents guyssss?
Lets take that one Av we had will we: We had so much monks horde had 2 top Boomkins + Healers and the only reason we even pushed is cuz Hack didnt play along anymore after the first teamfight,we would have had more trouble if he would have continued playing> slower pushing and the 5 man team from Emeg would have completly turned it around the minute they joined. They almost did if you recall and if it wouldnt have been for that one boomy to afk they would have,you cannot even give people that credit nor do you realize this at all.
The other thing you somehow always seem to ignore is u dont have 4 monks per map as ally to press revival on cd.
It has to be perma powertopped and this is what gives them the upper hand in the first place. I also screenshotted that bg und ally would have lost it if it weren’t for you and me in that map pushing 2-3b healing each in the first place. How often do you think this best in case scenario will happen for everyone?
Its called being lucky.
In case you didnt see it yesterday night btw emeg and co were ally and you had your own team drx team and some other group queues wasnt rly fair either now was it.
I have a hard time telling if you are being honestly blindsided in this regard or simply just trolling.
On your previous post that saturday i for once haven’t seen you at all not as ally nor as horde,your map nor my map are identical. You might have had a good queue but others did not.
Will always depend what team you face and what your team consists off. Queue alone have a team consisting of negative dmg from 80% on top of negative healing and lets see how far you can get. Always told you theres enough maps where alliance does not have a middlefield of players its 2-3 good dps players and the rest will fight the Disc Smitedmg. Ofc they will get stomped by big grps small grps and small grps being stacked due to dead q or com/bnet sync.
And all of it is fine these people need to learn somehow but not by hijacking the only pure pug map there is.
at least we can agree on that 
Edit says i just had an av where we were literally 1 cyrillic boomy and 1 healer vs emeg and idk whom and a russian 5stack we already faced a lot lately.After that i had an isle where we were 2 healers and no dps and ofc no one could press bl,which is also happening quite frequently lately.
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I can say this, I came back recently, bought a 3 months sub, got to 80 and got myself geared up via sparks, joined about 20 games in total. Mostly EBG’s and around 4 BGB’s, almost every single EBG was filled with the same old names, Zenie and Alfredo and co. The same old story every time, 20 randoms v 40 with however many syncers, pretty much every game was a complete waste of time, fun and energy. So I haven’t played since and am just waiting for the sub to run out.
I am the guy who has absolutely no problem going alone but prefers to play in small groups, and by that I mean on average 3 players, not even a full 5 stack.
My stats in both Blitz and Shuffle are good, I’ve lead tons of epic bgs solo, because it makes hardly a difference if you are a solo player with 39 randoms, a group of two with 38 randoms or a group of 3 with 37 randoms. You have 1-2 players more that reliably follow instructions, that’s it. Everything else is the same as if you queued solo.
Strategy calls work regardless of how many people you have in your group.
Also going solo in a mode where groups of up to 5 is not a badge of honor that makes you special. Play that way if you want to, but then deal with the consequences that your teammates are not always as reliable as they could have been if you joined with a group. I join solo and I accept it if I lose with a random team.
Don’t strawman me.
I said I encounter premades rarely and most opponents are random teams that are in fact very much beatable. This is true for both factions. And yes, I do end up beating random opponents more often than not, because a team that has a strategy caller is much more effective than a disorganized team. This is why people like Zado, Drex or Emeg are so effective. They multiply the strength of every team they are in.
This has also nothing to do with premades, since strategy calls work regardless of group size. Premade groups just increase the number of reliably obedient players who will follow instructions. If you want to be effective, make strategy calls.
When did I complain about a lack of opponents?
The one where we played for the alliance but Emeg joined late and almost turned it around? Yeah I remember how you complained about how bad you have it against all the evil premades, boohoo.
In fact, our alliance team was slightly stronger, when Emeg came, he fought back well, but he couldn’t compensate for the lead we already had (we destroyed more towers I think) and we ended up winning a round that became equal after the horde got backup in the form of strong players.
Neither does the horde?
Revival isn’t even that strong of a cd anymore, it only clears 3 magical debuffs and the healing is strongly reduced in large groups. The CD is also longer.
As I said, I need no specific team comp to be effective, it’s the calls I make that make the team more effective.
Yes, and you had 10 boomkins who pumped INSANE damage?
I also didn’t sync up with Drex’s group. We landed in the round by coincidence and I let Drex lead the group so he could focus on healing.
We also had stronger healing but hey, random teams.
You get what you get.
As long as you don’t sync, it’s not unfair.
It’s just the luck of the draw.
I have the impression that you are just miserable for whatever reason and I am also actively playing EBGs and my experience is completely different from yours. The forum should not be a breeding ground for the negativity you are spreading. I am doing well in EBGs and have a lot of fun.
I make strategy calls, I play in small groups (of all kinds of players, including weak ones, just anyone who wants to play) and I leave against synced premades (or give them a fight if I feel like it). If anyone here also wants to have more fun in epic bgs, do what I do.
Bro, while you wrote all that salt, I won 8 rounds in a row with the alliance, just with Valdrakon first and then a few more casual members from the community came and went. Not a single loss today and quite a few tough rounds. You could have stayed in that Wintergrasp too, btw. It was a completely random team against a random team. My group consisted only of me and Valdrakon on his rogue. We won.
After that wintergrasp where you left, next round we got in for the alliance was Ashran, Emeg was in the opponents and ragequit after the first fight. We won.
Epic bgs are good apart from the occasional sync premade.
They bring the s tier dmg/healing and do it on horde where the average pug is decent and lots of other groups queue as well,can just start syncing at this point wont make any difference at all.
Yes cause you know how do dodge them not like most of them aren’t in your community,imagine my shock when you wrote that horde in your weird event didnt show up or was short on numbers.
The honest fair playing horde wasn’t interested in a non stomp noooo i cannot believe that. Nah jk was precalling it.
And here’s where you are wrong we only had that lead because hxck didnt play anymore if both boomys would have continued playing together our lead would not have been that great so in a way he was doing us a favor.
Emegs group would have turned that around if it weren’t for that. Hxck started playing again when emegs crew joined, if he would not have stopped after first teamfight we would have not had this much lead and we would have lost.
yes and they farmed over 380 hks on ressources and had lower mine, it would have been a lost game.
Sometimes they do,yesterday for example not 1 inca with value for me at least, not that i had any intention to srsly even play this at all. Its a strong and decent cd vs boomis vs mm hunters not so much i guess. Still more than most healers have. Cant wait for rdruid rework nr5 doing nothing but nerfing it yet again.
Not always against “strong” opponents you will need some dps / hps not just calls. Else everyone of these Leaders would just zugzug and play alone. They don’t cuz they know they would have a hard time.
And if emegs crew cannot carry my fraction in those bgs versus multiple Groups so can’t i on my own. And so can nobody else.
It wasnt and thats why i left. Grp1.
Maybe the queue indeed favors Grp vs pug who knows.
i can only make assumptions based on 300+ Hlvl in this season alone and i play on my own. Imagine i would enjoy the premade cringe or piggybackride off of it via merc would be double but not worth it,to me at least. You do you.
Yeah i had lots of fun too in season start and mid rn its just hell,at least for my queue ofc yours can differ no doubts about that.
Told ya mid of season or when Korrak was up i had strangely a very high winrate to the point i felt bad for the Horde,you said idk what you mean they are doing fine. They weren’t in my Maps,they were in yours apparently. It is what it is.
Ya, i and lots of others had 3 weeks of perma deserter to the point these people came to alliance and it took my last energy to not completly lash out on them. We all know i would have gotten banned since abusing the massreport is the only other hobby they have 
And I do it for the alliance and the horde and get the same result on both factions.
Because it is, in fact, not at all dependent on the team comp and the alliance pug quality is on average exactly the same as the horde.
You know what it is dependent on? Strategy calls.
Yesterday I lead an Ashran where the horde had 10 healers and the alliance only 4 for the alliance. We got smashed in the zerg and backdoored their boss. Is that a result of advantageous team comp or strategy calls?
Having Zenie in my community gives me exactly no advantage to dodge him.
I can see when he is online, that’s it.
I still bump into him from time to time and then I leave.
I leave and log a character from the same faction that the syncers play.
I ask my group to log to another alt of their choice. Then we queue and get into a good game without a premade within a few minutes.
I do the same for Larkus.
Alternatively I just wait a few minutes.
It works.
Anyone can do the same. Regardless of whether they are in my com or not.
That was because we had only 300 members back in January. If we would host such an event today, we could easily muster a 15 man team. We still managed to host that event and this custom format has potential.
The impact of a single balance druid who isn’t even that remarkable is negligible for a game with 80 players.
The horde does not consistently have the better healers, it varies from round to round.
Yes, good calls wont help you in most cases when the team is way weaker in the zerg (unless you pull off something like a backdoor), but they can compensate for a moderately weaker performance in the fight. You usually win if the opponent is stronger but your team is smarter.
That wintergrasp offense where you left a few hours ago was a complete pug vs pug match and it played like one. Lately I see you leaving more rounds than finishing them, even when there are no premades present.
You know why that is? Because strategy callers like myself make every team they are in fight smarter and more effective. These might very well have been the same players who do well with a leader and poorly without one.
This is also why I do so well regardless of what faction I play for, how many players I bring with me (it matters, but only to a small extent).
Every team that has me or one of the other known strategy callers (e.g Drex) in them, will have a much higher win rate.
It is literally carry through leadership when the opponents have none.
Sure,its only that.
Both of these Com Groups have the same queue time like everyone else,apart from the declining/cancel. For the few times you may meet them others meet them way more,since they will have to have canonfodder. Blizz isnt letting them sit in queue 2 hours for 1 game. They need Pugs in their own team they need pugs as their enemy these people arent coming from nowhere.
So maybe be thankful you aren’t plagued as much as others. These 40 unfortunate ppl are players and not the 50 dodging friendgroups but actual solo players casuals puggies moms and dads and what not.
So yes, call your multiple 5 stacks in one bg random as much as you want,you do not much else than these people at the end of the day. The only Difference is you are not actively syncing yet you arent fighting competition either.
But engulf some more in that selfglazing.
Everyone is just a godtier leader and only winning because of that.
I leave when i want, i know every name and every alt. Told you to do the same learn all of that and you will see how much games are truly rigged against you or in your favor.
you played 15v5 2 times yesterday and had the audacity to call it random,same energy as these weirdos pretending world pvp has any value and a 1v5 is totally fair and square l2p git gud and we see how it worked for them when its xrealm and still dead every zone.
Any reason you and all these other groups of friends aren’t playing vs the syncers?
The results speak for itself.
You play solo, encounter “premades” all the time, describe alliance queues as hell lately and are miserable.
I play solo or in small groups, make strategy calls, avoid premades effectively and are successful. I have no trouble with either faction.
Blizz isn’t giving them preferential treatment either.
And everyone who doesn’t want to serve as cannon fodder to Zenie’s and Larkus’ sync premades, to them I say: “be smart, do what I do to avoid premades, you will have a better time in epic bgs and meet fewer premades. Let others be their cannon fodder, not you.”
Follow my advice and you’ll be happier. That’s all.
I’ve plenty of them in my community, except they understand that you don’t have to play this game solo and playing in groups is fine.
Not even my own group is a 5 stack most of the time, and Drex’s group was there by coincidence, so I will call it a coincidence because it was a coincidence.
Sometimes the opponents have multiple 5 stacks and I am solo. Ever see me complaining? I just play and try stuff until I either win or lose.
And it’s not like fill my groups with Elite commandos who play on 3k rating. Some of my friends do, but they are not with me in epic bgs every time, the bulk of my groups consists of average Joes and Janes recruited in epic bgs who just want to play.
Yes, I very much fight real competition in epic bgs with teams that are pretty much random. I also fight other strategy callers like Zado and Emeg regularly and defeat them often. Sometimes they defeat me too, but it is always a good fight.
I do not consider myself a god tier leader. I don’t always see everything, I miss opportunities and misjudge situations sometimes. But overall, my leadership has a positive impact on the rounds that I’m in and it helps me win rounds that would otherwise likely be lost if I didn’t make calls. This is true not just for me, but for many strategy callers like me.
Once again, this is not about me. This is something I can only recommend to anyone. Ask for the crown, make strategy calls. They work and increase the effectiveness of your team.
Wallow more in that self-pity.
I present a positive attitude and give people advice on what they can do to win more epic bgs and get more enjoyment out of the bracket without having to resort to playing in sync premades, which is de facto cheating.
What do you represent, except for misery and doomerism?
I see nothing resembling any idea or vision in your posts, just pure depression.
You say “Everything is terrible.”
I say “Here, do this, you will have a much better time.”
I have no idea what you mean.
I did not sync up with anyone, it’s the luck of the draw that drex ended up in our team, you had tons of good boomies in yours.
I don’t complain when the opponents roll better players, I just play the round and I usually leave when the round has Zenie or Larkus in it.
Because a group of 3 players that consists of one strat caller and two average Joes is hopelessly outmatched by a sync premade that stacks 15 players who pump strong dps / hps plus a strat caller plus discord?
So outmatched that it is a waste of time to even attempt to play the round and you can easily get into a fresh round without the premades instead?
Ngl, this comment cracked me up.
How many times have you left a BG so far on Alliance side?
A few times against Zenie, I also left a game on wintergrasp offense today where we lost sunken and half the team left against non-premade opponents. Normally I would fight and try to turn it around, but WG offense is the most unforgiving map if you fail to get enough kills to build catapults in the start, also half the team left, so it was pointless to continue.
Unless its against premades or a completely bungled WG offense, I don’t leave a lot when playing for the alliance.
So you never faced Larkus while playing Alliance and left?
Im asking since you talk like you keep things documented so I kinda half expected you to say exactly how many times etc…
Ya doesnt seem to be the norm for you then. For me and a lot of others it is no idea why they can’t move into this forum and voice their anger.
The Bgs apart from that one Av i had with you were not competition or somehow anything like one had to do a lot. It was steamrolling in slower motion and the same goes for when i play against you weird maybe we just have different understandings of how a bg should be.
Called realism, if i have the same people in my team over and over again that couldnt even somehow bother to win against a pure pug i dont need to suffer from any delusion that they will totally win against drx+fistus+ russian grp or emeggrp.
And i cannot avoid them either very much for whatever reason.
I didnt say you sync i said you can do it at this point. You really seem to never see these 5 stacks despite playing with them but fine lets end this here i trust my own eyes and the words of my puggers more.
Would you at least be able to tell a zxnie com grp if he and alf arent in there? Probably not. Kinda seems like it.
Your and my Queue differ a lot i can tell when i meet you by the ppl in your group a lot of them are not in my queue regulary.
Yeah you could sync too and snipe them horde has a lot of 5 stacks make 3 groups and blast it,in theory. Or dont you do you.
Just defeated drx in Winter and it was not much fun,he was with one group in there, no other 5 stack, we had a trio lots of deadweight who couldnt build idk my catas and towercanon mvped it quite hard. Yet its not the norm nor was it easy at all.