All we know is that Activision-Blizzard takes a jab at DFEH for connecting passing of one of the people with the currently-established “frat culture” within the company itself, deliberately using family’s grief as ammunition against DFEH, where as DFEH most definitely notified the family when the case was filed in order to avoid any legal trouble.
Unlike Activision-Blizzard, who make false statements on behalf of the family, pouring more oil into the fire.
I’m just dumbfounded at Roj trying to say Frat culture is okay in a workplace when really it has no place in a proffesional enviroment.
If someone dude comments on me having nice chesticles or a fat butt you bet your butt I’d take it to HR and if they didn’t do jack I would go the legal route for harrasment.
Blizzards case is just disgusting, unexpected, but disgusting af especially when one person got driven to suicide and they claim to be inclusive to the public.
It’s gross hipocrisy and mr.Kotick being in Epstein’s book really should have been a big red flag for people
Nu-Blizzard in a nutshell tbh
Fair point tbh. My bad.
good on you owning up to it king
let’s be honest if even a fifth of this (almost definitely more considering this is a state investigation which suggests the evidence is already credible) is true it’s still abhorrent
I second this.
I’m enjoying the hidden power levels in this thread though frfr
Absolutely reasonable.
Bottom line, she’s right. A business is not responsible for it’s employees happiness and/or fitting into the business- It’s largely the other way around, as I think it should be.
…However.
What I really do not understand in Blizzard’s case (if this turns out to be true), is for example the discrimination of women on the basis of them having children and/or families- That’s a positive and a great thing! Now they have kids and they -really- need that income and are even more dependent on you and they will break their backs being loyal and good employees for you. In turn, some businesses like Ben & Jerry’s, Supercell etc actually go out their way to really support maternity leaves and families, to foster long-term, loyal and extremely knowledgeable employees.
Meanwhile, most businesses still seem to see women in their 20’s to 30’s as “risky investments” specifically because they are most likely going to have kids- Which is bizarre at this point. The science is done, their creativity and efficiency increases, it doesn’t decrease.
I’m trying to come up with something witty about the fact that yesterday the FF director said that people shouldn’t hate Blizzard or divvy up companies as winners and losers because he respects and know what they went through to bring about WoW’s success, and today Blizzard’s official stance seems to be “The entire legal system of California is rigged against us”, but I’m drawing a blank and will just state the two facts.
I think you’re being a bit obtuse about what she’s saying on purpose in fairness- She’s just pointing out that some work cultures are absolutely completely incompatible with some people, even if things would be on paper “alright”. People will feel wronged about it all the same.
Not a workplace example, but I for example worked on this group project in accounting at my University in Ouu once. You had to have a group of 5 with two of the students having to be exchange ones. One was a chinese girl from Hong Kong, the other a guy from South America.
Every time the chinese girl was talking about her side of the assignment she was working on and/or doing he was extremely dismissive, rude and even spoke constantly ontop of her, in a very macho behaviour if you like. We all felt extremely uncomfortable but nobody said a word until I told him to let her speak and stop interrupting her. We all were a bit shocked about the whole ordeal but after that it ended.
A buisness is responsible for maintaining a workplace enviroment that’s complicit with US laws on sexual discrimination - Exactly what Acti-Blizz is accused of failing at.
Why would you defend a completely unrelated-to-the-topic work culture that may or may not be compatible with some people, when specific conversation is about the one, where women are sexually harassed?
Unless you, of course, agree with this with your tinfoil hat that lawsuit is just a meme and straight out lie, and state of California has nothing else to do in the midst of pandemic.
Those are not the things she or I are disagreeing with. Obviously a workplace should be safe from predatory sexual behaviour or discrimination.
Because, as she said:
It comes of as obtuse of just wanting to interpret something somebody said as something different.
If it isn’t clear after having said this three times already, I condemn any and all kind of discrimination at workplaces, sexual harasment etc. Very simple.
It’s just that when people say sweeping statements that workplaces need to be safe or not have x type of humour in it or w/e, there is a lot of nuance in there. Everybody can agree on the things that have been presented, yes, but for the rest (since the statements are, as said, sweeping), things are not so black and white. What humor for example people consider as being bad or good is completely context bound. If that is a weird take then so be it.
And many people replied that if the currently-existing “frat boy” cultures lead to actual deaths - then, perhaps, maybe PERHAPS, such culture should be changed, instead of expecting everyone else to share it?
Like I said earlier, literally just be tactful and not tell rude jokes to people who don’t want to hear them? Why is that so hard? Why is the answer to that “just change job dudes lmao”?
Our superior European “people are not items” job regulatory ways I guess?
Well, first of all I’d like to see the investigation done (as said) to see whether Blizzard’s work culture did cause this death or not.
Second of all it’d probably be a good time to agree on what is “frat boy culture”, since from one person I hear it’s simply “lads on tour” kind of innocent but obscene boys behaviour, and in another instance somebody calls it as systematic, intentional and intense culture where women are mistreated. Or is it something else. I don’t know, you tell me?
After those things are done you could start talking about what could be changed about Blizzard’s (or really, any other case’s) work culture so that it fits the frame of reference. Knowing is half the battle, after all.
Thanks for coming to my ted talk.
Still cringe
No there isn’t?
I sit through at last 20 hours per year through sexual harassment powerpoints on a mandatory basis (part of military to be completely bananas to be about such things), I am not sure why is that such a unique concept for business companies to condemn and force it down everyone’s throats to prevent such outcomes.
Jesus, I better sit 20 hours per year if that makes no one commit suicide over woke af pepega cultures
And pretty quietly at that. He was one of the big names but left without any fanfare.