Haste breakpoints for frost mage?

Is there any tool that could show me how much more haste I need to get 0,1 sec. less cast time on frostbolt? :stuck_out_tongue:

180 haste ∴ -0.1sec

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Whats the cast time for your Frostbolt currently?

Unless they changed it from when I last actually looked how it works it depends on the spell you use (on its base cast time at least).

So, last I checked to gain 0.1s on your spells, well, it depends on the spell.

A formula that you may use would be :

Actual cast time = Base cast time / (1 + Haste)

And of course “Haste” is 0.2 for 20% Haste, 0.5 for 50% etc.

With that if you want to discover how much haste you need to gain 0.1s on any spell you just replace the value of “Actual cast time” by “Base cast time - 0.1s” so you end up with something like that :

Haste = 0.1 / (Base cast time - 0.1)

Example time. With Frostbolt being a 2s cast you need about 5.3% Haste to get it to 1.9s. But this is not linear so you won’t gain 0.1s every 5.3% Haste. Indeed the cast will be 1.8s with 11.1% Haste (and not 10.6%), and then 1.7s with 17.6% Haste (and not 15.9%) etc, well, you can run the numbers, point being it’s not linear and you need more and more Haste to gain the same value in seconds (for instance 50% Haste would put you at 1.33s cast time down from 2, and not 1.5s, so the first 50% Haste reduced your cast time by 0.67s, and the next 50% Haste would only reduce it further by 0.33s, with your 2s Frostbolt cast being 1s on 100% Haste.

Again this is how it has worked for a very long time, I am unaware of any change that may have occurred in the most recent expansions but I quickly had a look and didn’t find anything about it. I also check on my casters and what I typed here does fit the cast times of all the abilities I checked.

It is certainly not as simple and straightforward as “180 Haste rating is always -0.1s”.

Still works like this.

The lower the cast time goes the more haste you’ll need per 0.1 second reduction.

Normally there’s a soft cap you’ll want for your cast times etc, then it becomes much less valuable due to the scaling cost and is probably better to move towards more vers instead.

Of topic but btw you shouldn’t play with glacial spike in pvp, it’s nerfed and the cast time is way to long for the crap dmg it does.

(I was the panda priest that fought you few weeks ago as rps).

Shouldn’t play Iceward either, or Comet Storm without Ice Nova. Ring of Frost & Freezing Rain are better options.

You either play Ray of Frost or Thermal Void, I see most going to Thermal Void though.

Should also use Triune Ward and Nadia Soulbind.

Glacial can do 20-30k damage and was unnerfed in 9.1. Afai remember, I won that game tho?

Ice ward with burst of cold gives me 2 x ca. 13-18k cones of cold.

Not even 1 haha but tbh rps win almost all rmx if we play good.

I don’t know about the unnerf, so nvm then =D

You I know but Ring of Frost is far more valuable since you now had 2 schools of CC and can cross CC 2 players alone. You dont really use Cone for dmg either so its not really worth it. You generally use it then blink away if they have no gap closer. You use your nova’s to create space so you can get some distance without using a blink or to stop someone chasing your healer etc.

Will it be the same

You really have to see my damage meters where cone of cold can top my damage while greatly contributing to kills. Doing two times triple 13-18k on the enemy team when they are stacked hurts and forces CDs.
Thanks for tips but so far I hit higher cr’s this season on my mage than you :U so I think my approach is somewhat valid while unorthodox

I don’t generally play rmx so you might be mixing something up.

Thats because I started playing again legit just over a week ago.

I’m 10 cr under you with less gear and it took me 1200 less games to get, on 2 under geared Mages.

You are going to struggle playing like that, Frost isn’t about doing big damage and winning fast but it’s your choice, good luck.

Wynters whatsup, we played against each other 2 days ago, I recognized you so as a sign of mercy I killed you slowly with an autoattack instead of Condemn, hope to see ya again soon :stuck_out_tongue:

Bro, you are rival geared, that’s far from “undergeared”. It’s average geared but whatever

If you’re playing a 2.2k - 2.3k mmr its under geared, everyone is fully geared.

I just realized I posted it in arena forums not mage forums and that’s why I get all these off topics. pepega

Well you got the info you were after from Shadenox.

Also the Nadia soulbind gives you stacking haste, thats one of the reasons its the best for Frost.

Well but theotar has the Mad Duke’s tea that grants you 3% permanent haste that actually gets me 0,1 sec if I equip haste pvp trinket ;0 (doesn’t put me past 0,1 if I don’t have that trinket).

Also mad duke can give you 3% versa tea as well… So I can hit 39% versa in my gear, pretty neat. That tea soulbind is underrated af

Nadia gives far more benefits to you than the 3% Haste off Theotar, aside from the 20% Haste you get a reduction on how long interrupts last which is big for Frost since it needs to chain cast aswell as Iceblock being on the same school as your damage. Throwing all that away from 0.1s less cast time of Frostbolt is just not worth it at all.

Don’t think you’ll use the Haste trinket as a Mage, you’re either using Shackle or BM from what I understand. Other is either Rele or Medallion, Adaptation is really bad and a half decent players know how to abuse it.

Thats the guy you want to check out for Frost, I’m not sure thats his 2s spec though.

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