Phase 1 as a druid tank has been disappointing and phase 2 doesn’t seem to be much better.
I hope blizzard haven’t forgotten that we exist.
I know balance and cat are far more popular, but don’t forget about us bear mains.
Lacarate and Mangle both get a buff in P2 tho
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Why can’t we have Mangle and Lacerate?
Druids having 4 specs really make the balance of having x runes per slot really hard work.
Lacerate should just be a Leg rune and then bears are happy?
What we got right now is a joke.
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Agreed!
The only option we have atm is skull bash and its not even a tanking rune 
Well Druids forgotten , What about rogues in gnome? No poisons and no bleeds. 3 of our bis Runes useless for A whole raid. Forcing every rogue to go backstab. Envenom Rune , saber slash and deadly brew useless
Yeh, but you can only use one of them and the rune of Gore says that your lacerate increases mangle damage, you cna’t even use them both? IT makes no sense.
Mangle is something cat also can use, having the same effect. Not to be able to use them both sucks and doing dungeon/raid without another druid sucks but you cant really get it all.
They need rage free trash or swipe. They got none, so yes, they are being close to ignored. Hopefully they change the datamined runes.
But anyway, from day one bears complained that crit immunity had the same spot than wild strike. They did not do anything to fix that. Same with Lacerate + Mangle on the same spot. It is just lbad design.
And now that we have amazing Aoe tanks, they did nothing to make bears on par. I see no reason to bring anything beside war / sham or pal tank atm.
The rest is subpar because of the clunky aoe part. Warlock might get better in p2 with shadowflame and p3 is immolation aura but that is it. Hellfire won’t fix it i am afraid.
Rage free? Lets make everything free then. No energy, no rage cost for anyone, no mana cost for stuff.
Attacks need to cost something.
Every class should not be good at everything. Paladin for example are awesome aoe tanks, dosent mean every class should be good at it. If you can play bear good you can easly have 5-6 mobs on you at once. At this rate you soon gonna ask for retail aggro aswell where tanks dont need to work for threat <.<
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raging blow o/
starsurge o/
I’m fairly certain his suggestion of Swipe not costing rage is because the damage is so bad, it has little to no effect on anything, making it a button you could press on every free gcd would at least maybe be… something.
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I don’t know about rage free swipes, but definitely a rune that buffs it’s damage or threat generation.
I’d love a thrash ability, maybe lacerate rune should also affect our swipe to become a thrash.
i get it, but druids have 3 viable builds. its greedy to expect 4, when others have just one.
I just don’t understand why they’re adding on use cleave on abilities that have long cool downs and also that PvP weapon on a 3 min CD. Like just make Bear mangle into a 3-4 target cleave ability with reduced damage & higher threat for clearing trash and keep lacerate as the single target ability. They also need to switch the actual tanking rune over to legs because at the moment it’s currently useless and is only used in PvP for boomys who want a bit more tankiness for kite spamming SS/MF or flag carriers.
What’s the point of adding cleave to an ability or item you can only use every 3 minutes or so lol.
Honestly don’t know why they’re digging their heels in with making a simple change like that. Maybe they just want to make the new tank specs viable and have Druids DPS in cat and heal.
Can you make a video on how you are garthering 5-6 mobs, starting off with 0 rage while you have 2 dps classes going all in before you even reach the mobs?
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Cant be spammed.
Starsurges mana cost was reduced to make Balance druid more viable in P2, should be changed for sure but maybe you missed the buff to this spell.
Thats dosent sound like a class problem then. It sounds like a dps problem. Just saying 
But thats how the game is played. There is absolutely no chance to pick up a group of 5-6 mobs no matter how good you are at playing your class.
If you say so. Seen druid tanks do that but I guess its impossible. You know!
I’m completely full BiS. I have every possible item upgrade available in game for a Bear.
In a raid my swipe, costs 15 rage and hits for 28 damage. It is a dead spell currently.
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You know you dont need to use swipe eaither to hold aggro on more mobs then one. Just FYI.