You can dismiss it for sure, but it’s still true
https://www.worldofwargraphs.com/global-stats/classes
Out of 120’s, yes- But even then, not by much. Only recently did they go past Shamans which was less played for a while.
Out of all characters, DH’s are the least played, as the statistic shows.
Chronicle 3 is more up-to-date and as such overwrites whatever contradictions there are, just like you said yourself earlier in this thread.
Most current lore > old lore if they contradict. Including gameplay.
He could’ve been wrong. Or are you saying he couldn’t be wrong?
His opinion doesnt matter- Narrators opinion does.
Again, the original point I made was that there’s 0 point to even make the claim because you’re ignoring all the variables and circumstances in order to make a well-informed, good judgement.
So it’s plot weapon when it’s inconvenient for your argument, but when it isn’t, it’s strenght/skill of the opponent?
I’m sorry but you can’t use this argument in one occasion and then rebuke it in another. It either holds or it doesn’t.
The end result is that he lost. Arthas was better.
You could be equally pragmatic about Cairne’s and Garrosh’s fight, if not for the fact that the narrator clearly states that Cairne was the far more superior fighter out of the two.
This hasn’t got anything to do with being black and white.
If you claim in one sentence that “Btw lmao gameplay > the rest of the lore sources” you got to follow through with it in another case, or the whole basis of your argument drops because in order to make those arguments you got to draw them from the same pool as the previous ones.
Light does, without a question or doubt, interfere sentiently when it’s champions are in danger. Case and point, Broken Shore & Tirion, where he clearly states that the “Light will save him”, even if it fails. But it doesn’t do this always, for whatever reason.
Even if it doesn’t, it doesn’t matter. It didn’t, and that caused Uther to lose the fight. The end result is the same.
Well that fight wasn’t a caged, UFC fight with rules either. There were no rules.
If you were in a fight that has no rules and you shot your opponent in the face, you’d be the superior fighter by definition. It doesn’t matter that it was easier, more cowardly or whatever else. End result matters, in a pragmatic argument.
No it’s not. It’s just an opinion. Opinions can be false or true.
Until you provide a citation that’s what your statement is: an opinion.
Like a new-earth creationist claiming that the earth is 10 000 years old.
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MMO Champion would be an absolute wild ride to read if that actually happens.
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Insert picture of sweaty MMOchampion in front of a button labeled ‘I hate Baine just because he doesn’t do anything’ and another with ‘I only care about Sylvanas’.
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This, really. If we go by gameplay standards:
https://gyazo.com/7f46ac21357aff5926f91e1eb09c963d
Blood DK is also by far the best tank for M+ and many raid scenarios (currently the most powerful), roughly since WoD (I know because I’m a mythic raider…), only dancing between druid and brewmaster at certain points.
https://gyazo.com/67c6593b3e0c45d295dbac6c0d67c0bf
I’m going to stop discussing this, as I believe that we’re going on a big fat circle which is largely pointless.
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And Arthas was using a 2H weapon, smh. Beat Uther even with most of his kit disabled.
just spammed howling blast & talented chains of ice tbh
Head Cannon: There are many who claim the Title of Witch Doctor but only few are “True” Witch Doctors: The “False Witch Doctors” are trolls who wield magic like arcane and fel, which they then pass off as Voodoo while on there other hand there are “True Witch Doctors”, Trolls who wield the power of their loa and can do remarkable things that even some scholars can’t seem to understand, all through the power of Voodoo.
Extension of this Headcanon: “True Witch Doctors” are considered terrifying to even their own allies because of the things they can do.
Edit: Just realised Google Auto Corrected Loa to Lower.
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And which Loa do you bargain with?
The Loa called Churchill, he said he’d Loa my prices on insurance.
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What’s the point of using global %, which shows alts that people never logged in past creation?
At level 120 they are above several classes, while being the newest class.
He analyses the fight and realises that he needs to make use of his superior speed, because Uther was stronger and he’d lose that fight.
And yes, when a fighter is fighting Bob and he thinks " Woah Bob is stronger " I’m going to believe him.
Gorehowl isn’t a weightless, one hit kill runeblade that mysteriously jumps into your hands when you’re disarmed.
So yes, it’s a plot weapon. To compare the two is nonsensical.
Maybe he was. But he still had a stick against an axe. Garrosh destroyed his weapon.
Again, ask anyone with weapon training how hard it is to fight a trained, armed opponent with a stick.
Except I never did that? I said gameplay >>> opinion. When there is no lore to confirm X, you look at gameplay to fill the gaps.
No, it doesn’t. The Light isn’t a sentient force, it’s magic. Just like the Void or Fel or Arcane aren’t sentient. They’re just energies.
The humans/paladins think the Light is a divinity because that’s their interpretation/religion. But there is no proof that the Light is an actual being.
Yes, because Paladins are trained into thinking the Light is a person.
" The Light loves us anyway. "
It’s not. That was Tirion’s own power freeing him from Arthas and in the Broken Shore. The latter, he just wasn’t strong enough.
The reason is simple, spells fail.
No, you wouldn’t. Because that’s not a matter of skill, that’s a matter of equipment.
Winner =/= superior fighter.
No, it’s a fact. It’s literally stated in an official book.
Facts don’t care about citations. Me refusing to provide a citation is because I don’t want to do your work for you. I told you where you can brush up on your lore, you can go do it. I refuse to shuffle through a book for you.
Regardless of whether you disregard this or not, it’s still a fact and you’re not the judge on whether it is or not.
im sorry my dude but mandatory meme is needed because its meme-worthy
vaccines cause autism
says who?
just google it, there’s been tons of studies
show me one
im not obliged lol
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But I literally provided the source.
Sure, and I’m meant to go and open the book on the other side of the country in order to prove your point? That’s not how this works my man. If you can’t be bothered citing something that’s ok, but insisting despite the numerous other citations and sources linked against that is a touch questionable.
Such as, say, the fact that DKs are told that they WERE heroes/adventurers in the opening cinematic, or the fact that they defeated legions of soldiers in Chronicle, whether as paladins did not. Just my examples of sources proving DK power level as something quite extraordinary, the others in the thread offered numerous others.
There has been no such thing.
No one’s denying that. Just so happens that all the player classes tend to defeat legions of mooks, so it’s an unquantifiable feat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuCX8EG9s9Q
And can YOU prove that?
Class balance in the game doesn’t exist in lore, wtf lol
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Those aren’t even Scourge Death Knights, first of all. Secondly, those aren’t your average mooks, they’re the likes of Teron Gorefiend, who are seriously tough characters in lore. Teron 1v1’d Turalyon and held his ground for quite a bit.
Parallel universes don’t mean anything, I don’t know why you’re linking this. There’s an universe in which Thrall got killed by a squirrel by the law of how infinity works. Baine didn’t kill Garrosh in our world and if he was able to he’d have challenged him to Mak’gora.
Also I want to point out that the PC Death Knight in the DK intro is CLEARLY way, way above the others. You lay siege to a barracks and bail out Koltira ( who was a DK long before the player, like 6 years prior ).
You’re a one man army. The DK NPCs are considerably weaker.
Could we go back to headcanons and you make your own thread for that argument please?
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I see that you simply don’t understand/are unwilling to understand a particular point of view. All I can do is merely advise that you shouldn’t consider your view as defined and completely established when you’re running off speculation yourself. Especially when,
you are very keen on immediately disregarding lore that does not suit your PoV.
I think there’s no point carrying this further.
Never understood the ‘stop talking’ thing on the forums tbqh. Is a discussion about headcanon & lore that disruptive in a thread about headcanon & its/[our beliefs of its] basis on lore?
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