Reading your comments, who does how much HPS, i know You both just misunderstand what that means " the best healer " on m+ and what makes something best
there are many things that go into
healing profile, how do you deal with damage, utility, class meta, Dmg etc.
and no one say PEvoker is worse than Shaman both are S tier , evoker just suffers cos Aug exist
But even that on low-key shaman is still better because there are no downsides compared to PEvoker ,You’re going to see when u meet full range party that doesn’t know how evoker work and everyone is spread 40 yards away, your healing going to be safer instantly .
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I mean, no ranged player stands even in the healing rain below a +11. Not starting about spirit link.
Like you say; everyone spreads 40 yards.
Very often the best healer for non professional keys are different specs because they are more flexible.
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ok u comparing his regular spells Dream Breath +Temporal Anomaly to your 3 minute cd Spirit link ,
You’re right, poor shamans; they are doomed.
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You seem to miss my mention of healing rain.
And i said nothing about doomed?
You want to have a fair discussion/talk or just troll?
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You talk as if you never healed with an RShaman.
Standing inside healing rain == +20% healing received. RShaman is a spec that depends on modifiers. Without which your heals do next to nothing, or cost such a crazy ammount of mana you go OOM in 30 seconds.
In fact. Let me tell you this. I got so SICK of people not standing in healing rain that I literally made myself a Farseer build that goes completly with out casting a single Healing Rain, but spending a ton of mana. And I rely on pure skill and smart use of Riptide/Healing Wave to conserve mana for long enough to sit and drink.
And I did not even start with the range limitations of chain heal. We only get expanded range for 1 cast every 8s with 1 talent. For any other casts the chain heal will not hit all ranged if they are not stacked up toguether.
ALL chain heal builds (including totemic that is literally just chain heals) dosent have the talent that gives you the extra range. So you have to use your brain and combine chain heals + spot heals for the ranged DPS in Narnia.
So yeah, comparing PEvoker with RShaman is fair. Its not just a 3 min CD link. Its much more. And that is not just RShaman either. ALL healers are more efficient if people are stacked up. PEvoker is not special in any way.
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I am playing farseer. Even on voice i do not get people in my healing rain. Totemic is unplayable. It is super frustrating.
It got a bit better with totemic projection but it’s still rare to have a group which understands rshamans mechanics. But to be fair a lot of DD’s don’t know anything about healers in general, they think:" Duuuh healer just press buttons to keep my HP bar green."
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bro u trolling all time trying to convince people that shaman is bad on m+
when literally 80 % of keys are Resto shaman they have good healing profile they have best utility/buffs short interrupt BL they have everything what other class has
combined
The only thing that comes to my mind is u struggling doing your 10+ thats why u coming here and try justify yourself by telling every one how shaman are bad
when reality is your skill issue, pls tell as why u are not playing MW any more ? why u are fotom reroller ? cos in ur RIo profil u got set MW as Main
There is absolutely no point in arguing with you
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Bro, show me 1 post where i say shaman is bad.
I go into every expansion as resto shaman first. It is my first character ever and i play it basically every season. S4 was by the way resto druid meta.
Indeed. No normal conversation possible with you when you just ignore everything i say and completely make up things.
There’s a whole post of Uda here too. Read it.
Your last post was only trying to attack me. So i suppose you do not have any normal arguments left.
You are over exaggerating and you are blind to the data.
Here is a more accurate representation of the problem at hand:
Up to keys 9, its more like 30% representation, and all other healers are also present. And then, at keys 12 and above you see the 80% RShaman representation.
However, keys 12 and above represent less than 0.1% of total keys done across all the levels.
So what you are actually seeing is a top-tier meta (which will ALWAYS exist, for example S4 of DF it was RDruid) and how it trickles down to lower key levels.
The problem is that that “trickle down” is done across 1 or 2 key levels. The difference between “pros” and “the rest” is literally 1 key level. So you can see how it reaches “normal people” much, much faster than other seasons.
If it was a regular season, you would see that in +22 keys (S4 DF for example) you also have 80 to 90% representation of 1 healer (and 3 DDs and 1 tank by the way, see DPS and Tank parts). But “normal people” were playing +14s, +15s . So 8 key levels. And therefore, even though RDruid ALSO had 80% representation you did not notice it as much.
THAT is the reality. So stop whining about RShamans and start whining about the M+ affixes that create this “wall” between “pros” and “normals” that is 1 key level thick.
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Ye for me, it’s 80 % because I’m doing 11/12 keys. It’s simple that different people have different goals, which doesn’t mean other healers should have disadvantage cos that
The healer meta for 11.0.2 is very one-sided. Even at lower key levels, Resto Shaman are very prevalent healers, representing 30% to 43% from +2 to +10 key levels. Beyond +10, Resto Shamans dominate keys, going from 61% of the healers at +11 to 82% of the healers in +15s. Beyond Restoration Shaman, the only other healer with good representation is Discipline Priest.
its text from ur link
if u think resto shaman is not part of the problem, I don’t know what i can say more
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Well then you are delusional beyond any hope.
You are currently playing in the top 0.15% of the playerbase. There has ALWAYS been 1 healer that dominated. And there will ALWAYS be 1 healer that dominates.
You have no right to complain. No arguments to complain. Other than you are salty because YOUR spec is not the meta one.
Pure ranting.
Here is the question : WHY is RShaman dominating ? Because we are OP ?
In what sense ? HPS wise ? We arent. Healing profile ? Also no. BL ? Also no.
Utility ? Maybe. But we also had it during DF. So why weren’t we having an 80% representation in DF ?
Think about it.
Also. High keys. Quote the RELEVANT data here :
While harder, a significant number of players still do +10 keys. +10 is the final gear breakpoint, giving Myth track gear to vault slots completed at this level. Beyond +10, however, there is a massive drop. There are still about 611.000 characters completing keys at +11, almost a 75% reduction from +10. At +12, this number drops to about 104,000, a drop of over 80% compared to the number of characters running +11s and a 95% drop compared to characters running +10s.
12s are a 95% reduction in keys with respect to 10s.
As I said. If this was S4 of DF, an 11 would be an 11. But a 12 would be like doing a +19 in S4 of DF. You skipped 8 key levels of difficulty and go from “normie” levels to “pro” levels in 1 key.
So OBVIOUSLY the meta at those key levels is dominated by 1 healer !
https://raider.io/mythic-plus-rankings/season-df-4-cutoffs/all/world/leaderboards
Who was dominating 100% of healers in S4 DF ? RDruid.
https://raider.io/mythic-plus-rankings/season-df-3/all/world/leaderboards
Who was dominating 100% of healers in S3 DF ? RDruid.
https://raider.io/mythic-plus-rankings/season-df-2/all/world/leaderboards
Who was dominating 100% of healers in S2 DF ? HPala.
https://raider.io/mythic-plus-rankings/season-sl-4/all/world/leaderboards
Who was dominating 100% of healers in S4 of SL ? Priest.
Want me to go on ?
Here is the point. Those examples I placed are from dudes that were doing +32 or things like that. Those guys were 4, 5, 6 key levels above everyone else. INCLUDING you. INCLUDING everyone that got 0.1% title.
And the vast majority of players were 10, 15 key levels bellow them.
And THAT is why, this “oppressive healer meta” was not as noticeable (except for S2 of DF, but everyone know why…).
But what happens in WW ? Turns out that those SAME PEOPLE are literally ONE key level above what YOU are doing. NOT 6 or 7. And literally 2 key levels… YES… TWO key levels from the majority of the player-base.
And that is why you “feel” an oppressive RShaman with out realizing that its NOT the spec. Its the dungeon affixes/design. And there will ALWAYS be a meta. You CANNOT change that.
GET IT ?
So stop whining. I did not whine in DF about stuff like this (except S2). So man up and deal with it, because the ONLY thing that can fix this situation is to nerf dungeon difficulty. Literally its the only way.
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Ye shamans must be nerfed to the ground, it’s literally impossible to play the game in its current state, I’m getting declines in +5.
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Just to repeat once again my points with an example :
In S3 of DF you could play with any healer. Up to a point.
When you reached ~ key-levels of +28 or so you started to feel the meta on you. And you had harder and harder time to get keys done. And the “pros” in the day were doing +30s.
So at 2 key levels below the pros, you started to get problems with the meta. Bellow a 28 (so anything from a +20 to a +28) healer balance was fantastic.
Today… in WW… this “20 to 28” difficulty range dosent exist. You go from an +21 (an 11 of TODAY) to a +28 (equivalent to a +12 in difficulty) in 1 single key level.
So you run SMACK into the meta requirements with out anything in-between. So the solution is to add those “missing levels” such that you got something to play.
THAT is the problem. And I hope that explaining myself TWICE gets the point across.
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BS. Check the data I posted. In 5s 25% of healers are RShamans. HPalas (and all other healers) are 12%.
If you are not getting invites its because your rio sucks. If not, prove me wrong. Post with your main.
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And I want to add another insult to injury here.
You are pushing +12s right?
So there were a total of 17823000 unique characters on this data. Of which 104838 completed ONE 12.
So you are saying that 90% of 0.566% of the player-base is dominated by RShaman ?
That seems like a 0.1% issue here. A non issue not worthy of mention, and absolutely irrelevant for the normal playerbase (of which YOU belong in).
It has happened every season. And will continue to happen every season. Its RShaman this season, and it will be some other healer the next.
BIG DEAL.
So after the THIRD time I repeated myself with hard data, I will say it again in caps this time so its clear for you :
THE ISSUE IS THE DUNGEONS. NOT RSHAMAN !!!
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It was sarcasm, mate 
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bro stop spamming l2 edit
2-4 keys always going to be a bit inflated because many people have a lot of alts and doing low keys
Problem is as well on lower keys, not only 12+
According to Raider io on keys be twin 7-9 – 40 % are Resto Shamans
that’s mean u got literally 4 time more shamans on low-key than any other spec
6 other spec 60 % means 10 % per spec, u still think its affect only 0.1 % ?
Nerfing dungeons not fixing problems it’s only stretching him
imo, the only sensible solution is to more frequent meta shifting aka nerfing/buffing specs
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Yes. But WHY ? What makes RShaman so powerfull in 7-9 keys ?
Because if you wanted a powerfull healer, then why not get the actual OP healer of WW ? PEvoker. Let me remind you for a seccond that PEvoker had to be nerfed by 40% in HPS to put it in line with the rest of the healers.
And its STILL performing 20% better than all the rest HPS wise. AND it has really, really good utility. With kicks, 2 stops, DPS, and a bursty healer profile perfect for PuGs.
The reason PEvoker is not played in high keys is because people take Augmentation Evoker. And you need Aug in high keys to buff the tank that is being mauled. Its a problem that dosent exist in lower keys, and that is why in 7 to 9 keys Augmentation is barelly played !!! So people blindly copy the meta in high keys and refuse to invite PEvokers, even though they are performing 20 to 30% better than anyone else.
So WHY arent people playing the OP healer spec ?
Because everyone is like you. They cannot fit more than 2 neurons in that skull and copy paste what the “pros” are doing assuming its the best because “reasons”. And that is not true. And if people keep coming to the forums and seeing moronic posts like yours saying “nerf RShaman” then of course they will beleive that RShaman is some GOD that can carry them in keys.
So, its because if YOU and people like YOU that jump to the “meta” bandwagon and start creating this “mith” of OP RShamans.
In conclusion : why are there 40% of RShamans in 7 to 9 keys ? Because people are idiots that is why. And will nerfing RShaman fix this ? Absolutely not. All you acomplish is destroying the spec for people that actually like to play it (ME).
What you could do is stop spaming these “op rshaman” posts and stop adding to the mith. Accept the truth as it is, understand the meta, and educate people accordingly. And in your keys, choose healers according to their kit and skill. Not acording to some “meta”.
NO.
In lower key you absolutely do have to strech key levels. And in high keys you need to normalize dispel mechanics. Buffing/herfing classes serves no purpose if utility reigns supreme in high keys.
Let me remind you that the MDI will start soon. And last year they were doing +24 keys (+14s in todays level) in their MDI runs. This season they are doing +10s for their runs.
And they are taking RDruid and DPriest as their healers. Not a single RShaman to be seen. But they are taking DOUBLE frost DK + Aug …
If you want THE most optimal comp for keys 10 to 12, its THAT. Let that sink in for a minute…
So what now ? Nerf RDruids and DPriests ? 
Will you create a post asking for that ? Cause they are the true, genuine, most optmilal healer comp for anything below a +14.
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Throughput wise they’re at the top, but that’s just raw healing which doesn’t say much.
If you go to U.GG resto shamans make up over 50% of high end keys in popularity, it’s because of their toolkit, ability to decurse, their many totems and all their utility.
Healing becomes obsolete when you literally just can’t interact with certain mechanics as a healer.