Heroic queues dead already?

Tanks and healers finish gearing up faster than dps, so it makes sense that dps queues get longer as time goes by.

I don’t know what a good solution would be. I’m down to just specifically queuing for two dungeons (Dawnbreaker and Priory), unless there’s a quest or I play with someone else. The Call to Arms satchel isn’t bad (the runes will be valuable), but it’s not terribly fun because it always contains the same reward. Adding back the chance for mounts and pets might help, but I don’t feel this would be fair to players of dps classes.

Because you apparently don´t understand why it happened. So, please allow me to explain, because it really is very simple.

Blizzard does not write US law. But as a US based company, they have to follow it, or there will be hell to pay.

US law currently forbids almost all trade with Russia. Period

It has nothing whatsoever to do with “selective” sanctioning of regions due to PLAYER behavior, and everything to do with their own government engaging in actions that have caused the international community to restrict their own companies from doing business inside Russia.

Coke and Pepsi also didn´t pull out of Russia because they “wanted to”, and neither did McDonalds.

So please put the blame on the russian and /or US government where it actually belongs, and not on companies that are only following the law so their own governments don’t shut them down by siezing ther assets, leyving billion dollar fines, and putting half of their employees in prison for breaking sanctions.

2 Possibilities here:

  1. Actual russians, but not in Russia
  2. You are forgetting that Greeks, Ukrainians and numerous other countries also use cyrillic letters, which for someone not versed in the languages always look “russian” by default :beers:
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Play more tanks get friends that play tank to and have same problem, then make a deal tank for each other dps.

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I don’t play tanks or healers because of previous experiences with other players but I’ve yet to see it taking ages (other than on one night) for a heroic group to be formed.

When you are tank or healer you can play with whoever you want, no one forces you to group with toxic players.

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That’s true but you also cannot predict how other players are going to react even those you choose to play with.

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This x infinity

After 15 years of constantly being everyone´s scapegoat for their own fails, despite more often than not hard carrying 3 failbob dds to success, most tanks and healers have finally said “Eff this BS” and either quit (the role or the game) entirely, or they only tank /heal for people they know.

Because unlike the tryhard know it alls in teh lfd queue, they now fully understand that they DON’T have to subject themselves to the elitist cryhard BS that is rampant in LFD queues if they don´t want to, as there are more than enough players that have mastered basic human decency that will gladly play with them instead of everyone acting like they´re just a useless POS that should be glad they got an invite.

LFD currently has exactly the tanks and heals that the people that spent the better part of 2 decades turning it into a toxic cesspool deserve: None.

Should people be kissing their feet when they find them? no. But throwing feces in their face 24/7 for 1,5 decades like rabid monkeys obviously didn´t work out so well for y’all now, did it?

So, maybe the solution is somewhere in the middle. Something more along the lines of “either be constructive in your criticism, or just shut the hell up for once in your life and be glad you´re not still sitting on your thumb in Dornegal, because that too can be changed in a heartbeat.” :beers:

While true on some level, I DO know that the people I choose to play with are not going to:
Flame me for playing tank or healer for the first time in instance X
Flame for going too slow while they ninjapull everything that isn´t nailed down
Flame me for going too fast instead of just asking me to go a bit slower,
etc,

And they´re most certainly not going to stand in a voidzone until they slowly waste away to a 200k dps dot, and then complain about how useless the healer is even after getting BoPed in the first one and lifegripped out of the second one, but might at least consider the possibility that they themselves might have been doing something dumb.

And that´s where the key difference lies. Mutual respect, something that hasn´t existed in LFx since at least Legion. We are not NPCs, we are people. Either treat us as such, or with all due respect GFYS :beers:

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Normals as well.

It’s going to stop now that they can no longer play with us.

No, its not forbidden (at least for now), its only the company desision. Some other companies (such as valve - steam, apple - app store) still allow russians to buy their digital products, there is no full embargo for US companies to trade with Russia, yes some categories of digital products (such as development IDEs or AI programs) are really prohabilted to sell in Russia, but video games not, so it’s only Blizzard decision.

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Upon further research, yes some companies still do it. I never said there was a full embargo, btw.

Microsoft, however, already suspended all activities in Russia in March . Blizzard is a Microsoft subsidiary and has been for almost a year. So in that light, it´s actually surprising that it took until the middle of August for it to trickle down to Blizzard.

https://blogs.microsoft.com/on-the-issues/2022/03/04/microsoft-suspends-russia-sales-ukraine-conflict/

The most funniest part that for now they left only 1 way to play new addon for russian accounts - to purchase collector’s edition (if you have europian friends who can order it for you) - and the code from it can be activated on account with russia region and from russian ip. But it costs 200 euros, it’s really big money for russia (and if you dont have EU friends, its about 350-400 euros to buy from resellers). And it can be activated on RU account so it’s only legit way to play new addon (without new account in other region)

I would expect that loophole to be closed sooner rather than later…

Just for the record, there are currently only well known 2 video game companies that have not changed anything about the way they do Business in Russia, those being Bandai /Namco and Riot Games.

All others, incl my employer, have at the very least cut off russian users from being able to earn money thourgh them (such as valve and twitch), or shut down theor services entirely…

https://www.coalitionforukraine.com/video_games

Interesting though is that the dates for Blizzard and Microsoft “seem” to be switched, as Ms officially stopped dealinf with russia in march, while russian users were´nt locked out of WoW until a few weeks ago, yet according to the database supposedly Blizzard suspended sales in march while MS didn´t follow suit until august 14th… 0.o

And I do have to admit i get a chuckle out of how the FPL handled it, just straight up deleted all russian accounts, poof, done, problem solved :rofl:

I dont think so because people asked support about it some months before, and support confirmed that it can be activated so blizzard knows about it. But yes, in fact it doesnt really matter because only small % of people in russia can afford it, and most who want continue playing just created account in other region (kazakhstan or turkey)

Frankly I’ve done nothing but heal in the last 15 years and I can count on one hand how many times someone commented on my healing in a pug, even when it was obviously my fault we bricked a key.
The same goes for how many times I’ve seen someone smack talk the tank, so you can’t say it’s because I’m a godlike healer.

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I would tank more If blizz planted a real tree every time I did one.

And a kitten, a real one! * (not plant it send me one)

That might make up for the psychological trauma.

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No, it isn’t going to always be this way, people are checking out of raids on mass, M+ will die this season or next, and people will do solo delves or with a friend or two. A solo M+ delv will be next, one that gives Mythic gear as you will already be able to get HC raid gear through a delv.

People don’t wan’t this crap anymore.

Just for the record, as much as I personally believe the the introduction of M+ significantly accelerated this development, in M+ the environment is significantly less toxic that it is in the RDF, especially in higher keys.

The RDF is filled with all the people that aren´t (yet) good enough for M+ but believe they are potential .1% title holders, the people that have no problem dissing someone for not being a progamer while obviously still leveling, that have nothing better to do but attempt to display how good they are and flame the rest for being terribad when they fail, because to them we´re all replaceable npcs that they´ll never interact with again, anyaway.

Wheras if you act like that in m+, especially the higher you go where the number of “Unbound” players looking for random groups can eventually be counted on both hands, then all you did was potentially brick your own key and /or guarantee that it´s only going to be harder to find groups to push with, because eventually everyone running 15+ already has you on ignore. :beers:

Agreed. People don´t want to deal with the toxic BS anymore.

Source? Because raiderIO numbers do not support these claims last time I checked.

We will, but only once to get the achievement for the 13th delve, and then the system is dead for anyone with a decent guild that prefers an ancutal challenge.

You seem to be implying that heroiuc gear drops in teh delves themselves… that is factually incorrect, it only drops in teh weekly vault, champion gear drops in teh delves tehmselves… 1 item week *16 slots, IF you get lucky and can actually use the items offered because they aren´t duplicates (welcome to the Great Vault roulette we´ve all been playing since SL)

As it currently stands, in the very best case if you run +8 delves starting first day of the season (good luck with that endeavor) and have perfect lootluck, it will take you 4 months /16 weeks to gear your char in full heroic gear, without upgrades.

By that time, and decent raider capable of running heroic and +8s will already be a dozen itemlevels or more above anything the delver can ever hope to achieve without actively farming the raid and m+ for crests and valorstones, which they won´t be able to do because most of us will already be on our post-progression break… unless they want to pay a few hundred k for a carry.

The thing you seem to forget is that not everyone is satisfied with being a “high-end casual”, some of us want and can do more, and many of us also have more than 2 friends. And for those reasons alone, delves can and will never replace high end raiding or M+, because for good players on comms, they present no challenge even at the +8 level we were able to test on Beta which is where delve gearing stops.

And if you try to replace M+ and Raids with delves, literally millions of us WILL leave because the content we actually enjoyed no longer exists and the content we´re being offered is kindergarten level.

And I highly doubt that teh “Delve to world First”, “The Great Delve” “Mythic Delve invitational” will ever be a thing for exactly those reasons, and the RWF, TGP, AWC and MDI are large events that regularly garner not only a high viewership, but also directly bring players into the game.

Watching some group of 3 casuals wipe tehmselves to poverty in a +12 because they all can´t remember to pick up the breathing bubbles may have a similar entertainment value, but it´s vers much akin to watching the Muppet Show while the other is a Hollywood Blockbuster.

Again, I think delves are a great idea for single players and small groups that jsut want to smash back a few beers and run a dungeon… but even suggesting that they will somehow replace raids and M+ for those that enjoy that content is absolutely ludicrous.

Staying in the city during 15 min = 2-4 crafts for 5-10k each

Going in dungeon for help for NO reward ? Oh wait useless crystals

KEK :dracthyr_hehe_animated:

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Been healing since 2007 and have healed literally every expansion on multiple classes. I use one addon for my healing. Just the one.

Disclaimer: dbm, details, gtfo, weakaura don’t count as healing addons and imo are needed by all roles

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