That all your victories and undeserved priviliges in the lore could only happen because Blizzard dragged the Horde through the mudd multiple times by now? All our dead leaders, raided cities and the middle fingers of WOD and BFA was nothing but a massive blue team sanservice. The fact they expect me still to be nice to Jaina and Alleria is also a grand sign that shows Blizzard doesn’t care about my faction. Worse of all they killed Gallywix and Gazlowe is not even trying to make a good deal for the Horde that could benefit our economy.
You won. And the price was making all Horde fans feel extra miserable. Congratulations.
That all your victories and undeserved priviliges in the lore could only happen because Blizzard dragged the Alliance through the mudd multiple times by now? All our dead leaders, raided cities and the middle fingers of WOD and BFA was nothing but a massive red team sanservice. The fact they expect me still to be nice to Thrall and Lor’themar is also a grand sign that shows Blizzard doesn’t care about my faction. Worse of all they killed Varian and Turalyon is not even trying to make a good deal for the Alliance that could benefit our economy.
You won. And the price was making all Alliance fans feel extra miserable. Congratulations.
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Bro seriously can’t believe in 2025 you’re still posting these threads, you’ve literally been posting the exact same topics since Legion days man.
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Blizzard replaced almost all faction leaders. I think only Lor’themar and Draenei grandpa were not replaced for the time being. I think lore writers hate original story and can’t wait to tear it out.
Idk how does it feel to cope and seethe this much?
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I can because the alliance community is to blame for making the Horde miserable.
There is no alliance/horde community anymore Erev, practically everyone is bi-factional now to some extent anyway. It’s in your head man.
I know about your human paladin, cmon now.
the alliance comunity exists and are Blizzards favorite kid.
I wish I’ve had problems such as these.
Alliance bias is a real problem.
You have my deepest condolences, life must be hard for you.
I want a public apology from every alliance players for what they did in BFA.
The faction conflict is completly gone and even the reminders of it are rewritten over it.
Both factions are garbage now eventhough i agree horde was completly destroyed and now they are practically just in the background while some alliance charachters push the story.
The whole writing is too safe and modern disney like, we wont ever get the stuff that made horde interesting ,cause there is no people working in blizzard that had the understanding of the faction originally
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To be honest, I think what made the faction conflict even vaguely interesting ended when they started to nuke cities and tried to make the faction conflict a main plot instead of a background part of the world-building. Once you get out the nukes, there only ever really could be a “war is bad” message, instead of the medieval-ish mutual raiding, skirmishing and backstabbing we had before. The whole “let’s unite against the greater foe and kill each other again afterwards”-thing only works, if the threat from outside is actually visibly worse than your ground-level foe. After you start the nuking, it’s either mutual destruction (post-apocalyptic WoW2, anyone?) or polite peace that kills all the fun. So guess what we got.
That’s why I actually advocated for getting rid of the faction for years, so we would free the world up for lower-scale player-race conflicts that didn’t directly lead into world wars again… Well, Monkey’s Paw and all that, I guess we got rid of the factions…
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True the faction conflict ended up being more and more shocking and bigger attacks and even more genocide cause they had to keep always rising the stakes. that doesnt last forever and loses its point.
But they could have written this peace so much better i talked about it before about mending the wounds between the races and factions not like suddenly everyone is holding each others hand which takes away so much from the worldbuilding and story
Within the confines of WoW’s story-telling… I’m honestly not sure how that would look. What we’re getting is basically what I’d expect, given their goal of shelving the whole thing. I mean, I agree that there should be more Horde-characters around, but I don’t think it’d be any more interesting with them insisiting on how the war is over than with the Alliance ones.
well in reality there isnt lot interesting Horde charachters left only one that has the gravitas is Sylvanas but she is hated by half of the playerbase and considering what she is done its impossible to redeem that even as a “loyalist”. Thrall might be interesting if he got some of his old self back but that doesnt seem to be the case, it is really that they have written themselves in the corner
Though on a slightly positive note i actually like what they are doing with goblins with undermine patch.
You change that by writing them. A good character doesn’t have to lead his whole people to be interesting. Indeed, I personally think having to make them the representative of a whole people is a detriment to character writing. Grunt Carl can easily be as interesting as Thrall, if you give him a few lines, and he can say the politically incorrect stuff that might lead to a war if Thrall said them.
Eh, I hate everything about them, honestly. The poor oppressed cutthroat goblin leaders, living in fear because Gallywix has a gun that… can kill people? Everyone basically ignoring past exploits and working together for peace and unity instead of profit? Tons of side-quests with goblins being obsessed with people violating complex regulations and contracts? I liked my goblins a looot more “YOLO”, and I think the good guys could basically be replaced by humans and I wouldn’t notice the difference.
But to be sure, I’m seeing what I expected to see here, so probably a lot of confirmation bias on my part. At some point I just started skipping through it, and I haven’t even looked at the Reznik-story.
Well the issue with the horde would be introducing new blood but that would need skill to write actual charachters that are interesting.
Well when thinking of old wow with goblin’s they all were fine being under Gallywix and they themselves havent had this kind of change of heart that supposedly they are all for worker’s rights and wanting something else than getting more of things. but i like it as a way that is different compared to what the other war within stuff have been. When standards get low even this kind of seems entertaining
