I sometimes wonder whether people really think you’ll get any enjoyment from having a title you don’t deserve.
I remember in tbc when we just started our first guild and resto Druid scarab lord applied. It gave our guild so much weight we suddenly started recruiting some of the best players on the server. Cleared SSC and TK in record times.
But sure, non of that matters. It’s very important that anyone can get it now because you might (you won’t) feel a tenth of a fraction of accomplishment or whatever
why do you not want to share the content and gatekeep it ? does it make you feel special awhhhh cute. you’re not any different than classic andies saying wow should go back.
locking content is just wrong in every game especially in mmos. i still can’t see any valid reasons btw
You sub pays for the current version of the game. You’re not paying for Vanilla in the sense you expect, because the game has changed so much at it’s core that enjoying vanilla would never be possible.
However if you want the Vanilla experience then you have Classic Servers.
You’re solution is there, you just don’t seem to want to take it. Classic Servers, or Micro-Holiday. If you don’t want to play the game, then don’t play the game.
I’ve given plenty of reason why across multiple threads. Just because you don’t see it that way doesn’t mean the game should change for you.
You’re getting what you’re paying for. You can bend it how ever you want to see it. You’re playing World of Warcraft, that’s what you are paying for.
If you’re getting 100% out of Dragonflight, why can’t I see any Dungeon or Raid Achievements? You’re not getting 100% out of it.
You just sound like an angry child throwing his dinner around because he got peas instead of chicken Nuggets.
The chances of you actually getting it are slim anyway. Someone else is going to be banging that gong long before you get there.
that’s literally what it says on subscription’s description lol it says
‘’ Play World of Warcraft with access to every expansion through Shadowlands. Create your hero, embark on daring adventures, and rise to new heights of power as you level up your character. When you’re ready for even more adventure, upgrade to the latest WoW expansion and begin your journey to the mystical Dragon Isles.‘’
you’re not special just because you’re 10 years older than average gamer. you experienced the 10m subs era of this game and that should be enough for you but no you just want everything to yourself lol by you i mean people with this mindset.
It’s not an mmo, it’s an mmorpg where some achievements add to worldbuilding and immersion.
It’s a fantasy world where some people who ignored their jobs and children managed to kill fantastic monsters and now carry those trophies. I didn’t kill 'em but I like seeing a tauren warrior who I knew was some GM main tank back in the day carry it around knowing that it’s not just another rando who did a few quests between mythic+ runs.
Immersion is important for RPG games. The more we move to this content for content’s sake MOBA mentality the fewer people will play this game.
“half” is a quite a hyperbolic statement.
The number of such items in game is quite few, thankfully. I’m not a fan of removing content from the game but a few highly prestigious items being removed is fine.
You only want this item because it’s prestigious. It’s only prestigious because so few people were able to get it.
Give it to everyone and it’s no longer prestigious, and then you’d no longer want it.
Do you not have access to every expansion through to Shadowlands?
I don’t think pre-patch or pre-raid events would really count as part of an expansion anyway. They were more about being Community Celebration of the game progressing from era to era… Kind of like the King’s Coronation this year. Or do you think the poor chap should sit there and be coronated for the rest of his life, so nobody misses out on it?
I just don’t really think you quite understand the reason for these events and what they serve in the game.
As I said previously, just enjoy the game as it is. Take part in the events that come along and enjoy living in the World of Warcraft the way you enjoy living in the real world.
World of Warcraft is best enjoyed in the present, in the current time.
That’s it. When I see a “Scarab Lord” I know what they have done and what era of the game they played in.
If “elidarn” a Demon Hunter (made up name) who made his account 2 weeks ago is running around with Scarab Lord, it would mean nothing and nobody would bother getting it or wanting it.
They only want this item because they can’t have it. But that’s not a reason to put it back.
i feel like immersion is the only word you know lol i still can’t see any reason why old content should be locked away.
no it’s not fine .
you still haven’t given any logical reason why old content is locked and you won’t be able to give a reason i guess. i’m all up for re-introducing prepacth event gear too via trading post etc. yes events are limited time stuff but they also give powerful rewards like pre patch gear which is not useful rn so i don’t care if people who missed that event getting the rewards today.
i’m not just talking about limited time events here, all old content should be obtainable and only reason i see to not do is not to upset old players because they wouldn’t feel special after unlocking the content they gatekeeped for years.
If you don’t like it, there are other games which does it the way you like it.
All you’re doing is advocating to ruin other peoples enjoyment.
I’ve given plenty of logical reason. You just have an unwillingness to take the time to understand.
You seem to think that just because you want something, it’s okay to ruin other peoples experience. That in my opinion is against the purpose of the game.
Back then only 1 player per server could get the title. By some miracle a second player could get it if they were quick enough.
And you want for everyone to be able to get it. There is huge difference between 1-2 and everyone.
The Gates have already been opened. How many times do you want to open already open Gates?
see ,your answer is ‘‘we are special if you don’t accept it then leave the game’’ lol.
i’m not just talking about scarab lord but about that, they spent more than 15 years with that unique title and most of the new players don’t even know what that is so why not make it available to everyone now ? imagine a new player seeing the title and looking to get it but then realising they CAN’T. this is one of many reasons why wow is not new player friendly, no matter what they can do, there’s always something that they can’t get in-game and it’s not like silly rewards in other games, its mounts, titles, tmog options etc. the game and it’s players like people in this topic constantly say ‘‘you had to be there’’ to new players and then wonder why it’s not attracting more players. tell me who got hurt by giving away feldrake ?
You know, when these topics come up I see the same terms being used.
And every time I see these terms, it makes me realise I’m trying to explain to someone who just doesn’t understand what the game is about, nor really wants to.
It has nothing to do with “feeling special”, it’s nothing to do with “gate keeping”. It’s just about how the game plays.
You say you’re getting 100% out of Dragonflight, but you don’t have any Raid Achievements, you don’t have any M+ achievements. Are you even playing WoW?
I’m not suggesting that you need to kill Mythic Raszageth, but you’re definitely not getting 100% out of Dragonflight if you haven even done a M0 Dungeon.
and you always make people feel like they don’t understand something while you are the one that doesn’t understand. wow is a whole game that keeps growing and expanding and we pay for the whole package not to most recent one so we should be able to get the same content as you have . you’re trying to change the direction of this conversation because you don’t have a valid point of WHY old content should be locked . this is what you’ll keep doing because you need a distraction since you can’t justify your point, you’re afraid to say that ''i am special ‘’ because you know that you are not lol . this is one of the things that needs to change about wow , locking old content and completely randomly locking. why sl legendaries are obtainable as tmogs but some old items from vanilla are not ? there’s literally no reason for that . i can still use heart of azeroth on alts if i want to but i can’t obtain some stuff from primal ages of the game. with your logic many things should be locked.
I don’t have Scarab Lord and I don’t want it though I’ve been at this game on and off since vanilla.
I don’t care about being special. Play a character long enough and it will feel special to you whether or not you have milestone achievements.
But that’s just it with the newer generation of gamers, give me everything all at once because I’m paying for it.
Next time you see a scarab lord or high warlord do a little bow. Think of how many hours days and months that person had to waste to get it, try imagine the dedication, instead of immediately thinking aaaah yes me too! Me too!
Addendum: new players don’t join because it’s very hard and time consuming the get the reins of it and levelling is chaos. Not because they can’t acquire a handful of titles out of hundreds…
lmao that’s not about generation that’s how games work, you pay , you get access to all of it and then play the game lmao is this your first and only time playing a game ?
next time try to make valid point instead of trying to make cheap jokes , love.
It’s just that I think the game is better as it is.
Yes, and through that grow and expansions things come and go.
But you do pay for the game as it is today.
WoW has always had events come and go over time. In fact, it really is something I enjoy. I would like to see a few more. But I’m quite happy with the Pre-patch events. I try to take part in them when I’m able to.
I’ve made plenty of valid points.
The game is moving through time. It’s a living world. That means events come and go.
But the important part there is that “events come”. You have plenty to look forward to.
I’m not saying “I’m special”, because I’m not. Just like you.
You make accusations like that because you can’t understand the purpose of these events. Brain instantly turns Toxic and tries to insult people.
I don’t say, maybe other games will be better for you, because I think you should go. I say it because WoW does what WoW has always done and some people like it that way. Whilst there are other games that do what you want. I’d rather you just enjoyed WoW personally, but it seems you don’t.
I want more events like this. I think these time-limited events really add to the immersion of the game. It really pulls the community into one place and are always really exciting to be part of.
But that’s not my logic. That’s what you’re failing to understand.
I think the only way you’ll ever understand is by living in the game and enjoy it.
When I say “play the game” I mean live Dragonflight. Get involved with a guild, make friends, do Dragonflight content together. Earn renown, clear dungeons, maybe do Normal raids together. That is the WoW experience. Live and enjoy that life for a while and watch the game move through the ages as the next expansion comes and the next.
Once you live that experience, then you’ll understand what I mean.
Exactly. I think it is very sad.
Whilst I appreciate an attractive part of WoW is it’s long long history. And as a new player going back and collecting a few items to set your character going is fashionable. I think some players fall into that and never actually participate in the real WoW gameplay experience.
I returned to the game after a long break, at the start of BFA, and I went back to collect stuff. But then I just got on and played the game the way I used it.
WoW has always been a game played in it’s present day form. From TBC they started introducing Catch up mechanics and gear to help new players get into the latest patch/raid/content. That’s what keeps the latest content relevant.
i’ve started playing wow in bfa, took a break, came back in sl and still here so this is not my first expansion, i also played lots of classic tbc/wotlk but i am able to understand how it feels when you join an mmo that’s filled with people that’s gatekeeping old content or toxic people in general because that was the same in bfa too . i also play other mmos and yes they have limited time rewards too but none of them are as important as titles or the best cosmeticsc in the game. if wow wants to evolve and modernise to bring more players then they should stop with this nonsense and let people access to older content i don’t see wow growing with your mindset of ‘‘you had to be there’’ you’re trying for hours now and still can’t give any valid reasons why it should be locked. all you say is ''wow is like this ‘’ and ? that’s not a reason that’s a problem that requires change.