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That title is unique for one reason. So few have it. Not Invincible few, nor Deathcharger few. Way, way fewer.
Give it to everyone and it’s just another title (not even a very good one) like Dragonslayer (a cooler title but anyone can have it).
Generally I agree with you that content shouldn’t be removed but this one specific title and mount are sacred in the game’s history.

Removing the MOP cloak and the WoD ring were silly, mostly as they removed the quests that went with them which had significant lore details and also it gated access to the Ordos area on the Timeless Isle.
But they’ve stopped removing such questlines since then, I think they realised how silly it was and how it damaged the game especially for new players.

The Mage Tower weapon skins was another mistake and I think they’ve learnt from this too, they didn’t remove the Island Expeditions and the mogs from that nor Torghast and its mogs.

They do have season rewards that get removed but these are generally recoloured mounts so no big loss.

The Scarab Lord rewards is a strange hill to fight your battle on. The Mage Tower mogs would garner you more sympathy from forum members.
Although I think there’s a good chance most of them will get some recoloured versions put on the Trading Post at some point.

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i can see that it’s a sensitive topic for old players who experienced that era but still that title already doesn’t mean anything to majority of the players. they could at least add an event to give it to 1 person every year for example.

there’s literally no excuse for mage tower skins being locked rn.

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But the only person being toxic in this thread is the person claiming that others are “gate keeping” because they want to “feel special”.

That’s subjective really. I don’t think Titles are really that important, definitely not the best cosmetic at all.

I agree WoW needs to modernise and evolve. But it can do so whilst preserving the how the game has always played.

As I point out. I think if you’re THAT unhappy with how WoW presents itself and there are other MMO’s which you think do it better. Then just play the other MMOs.

Let WoW have it’s strengths and continue to succeed in the way it succeeds. And take part in another game that has other strengths that you enjoy, and help that succeed the way it succeeds.

I keep asking you this:

But you seem to be failing to respond to me. I bring this up because THAT is the WoW Experience. that is the strengths of the game that continue to modernise and evolve, that is the experience you’re paying for. But you don’t seem to be getting involved in it.

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no i’m trying to find a reason why would you gatekeep 20 years old content.

yet you still defend one here for hours.

no it can’t because that’s one of the problems it has.

i told u that i am playing wow , the reason why i don’t use my main is exactly people like you who would say ‘‘you haven’t even done mythic vault yet still talking’’ and try to use my logs etc. to shame me for talking out . this topic has nothing to do with dragonflight we’re talking about locked content that you keep gatekeeping

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Personally, I’d rather see them put new skins in the game each expansion. Let them be limited to the expansion, but make sure there is always a replacement.

I think Class skins are important to players. Whilst I have no opposition to them being locked to an expansion, I do think an option should always be available hidden behind a challenge.

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You have 5k achievement points. You’ve done the best part of none of the content, and you’re complaining about the best part of 0.1% content that has been removed. Do you know what the word pedantic means?

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THERE.IS.NO.REASON.FOR.THINGS.TO.BE.LIMITED.TO.A.CERTAIN.TIME.PERIOD.
you still could not give any reason why it should be limited and yet ask for more limited content.

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I think the main reason they’ve not been brought back is that Blizzard would have to admit that removing them was a mistake. They don’t have the humility required to do this with the current leadership.

But they could add in slightly recoloured / redesigned versions of the Mage Tower skins either as rewards from a new challenge or through the Trading Post. This lets them save-face and let’s the players have items they’ve been wanting.

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see @billy this is why i don’t use my main on forums. people use stats to point out unrelated stuff to stop me from talking lol.

do you know what the word gatekeeping means ?

yes. they should recycle some old rewards while adding new ones !!

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Jesus, now you’re just being dramatic. Gatekeeping :joy:

It’s okay for a tiny amount of exclusive rewards to be kept in the past for other players to feel rewarded for their times of playing the game over the years. It’s not like you’ve run out of content, clearly. You’re just acting like a child who’s throwing their toys out of their pram.

That being said, I’ll leave you to it. Aren’t you the guy who thinks Dragon flight is one of the worst expansions, and disregard anyone else’s opinion because yours is the only one that matters.

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it’s not okay lol there’s literally no reason why they should keep doing this.
calling me child won’t change the fact that it’s meaningless to keep content locked

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The only gate keeping that’s happening is that the Micro-holiday happens for 3 days year.

The content is there to enjoy though.

But that YOUR problem. It’s not a problem with the game itself.

It’s just that you don’t like it. Other people do. That’s what you don’t get. Don’t try an ruin the game other people have enjoyed for 19 years.

I didn’t say you needed to do Mythic vault.

But your Profile shows what you have achieved across your Account as a whole. And that doesn’t show very much.

Whilst I appreciate you wanting to maintain some privacy. I am merely looking up your Achievements, so I can get a grasp how you play the game.

And you don’t really seem like someone who plays World of Warcraft.

As I have said, WoW is at it’s most enjoyable played in the present, watching the game move on and evolve over time. Stop worrying about the past and enjoy the adventures in front of us.

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thanks for all the suggestion but if you don’t have any reasons why content should stay locked then i will keep asking for them to be unlocked.

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Seasonal/Patch/Expansion Rewards

The reason is very simple. It’s to make the Current Expansion/Patch/Season populated. It encourages participation in the current game.

Having a healthy population ready to participate in the current content created an overall better experience of the content.

Once a season/patch/expansion finishes and the game moves on to a new era a very small number of rewards are removed, but are replaced with new rewards.

Time-Limited Pre-Patch/Pre-Raid/Game Launch/Anniversary Celebrations

These serve as an event for the community to get involved in to Celebrate the change in era of the game. The excitement and enjoy comes from being part of the event.

Think of it like a Music Festival. It’s there for a few days and what makes the event is people around you and being part of it all. But once it’s over, it’s over.

It’s not removing content. The content in these events is minimal. The experience is being part of the community living through the event. That’s the content of it.

There have been plenty of suggestions. You have just chosen to ignore them.

But you have also not given any reason why 1) you can’t enjoy the event in the Micro-Holiday or 2) How having Scarab Lord title will improve your ability to kill Normal Eranog in Vault of Incarnates.

If you’re not happy about how WoW is, you’re playing the wrong game. Don’t change a game that other people enjoy just because it doesn’t work for you. You just find a game that you enjoy playing and does what you want it to do already.

You don’t go into a restaurant and saying to the manager that you don’t like the table lay out, or you think the Waiters/tresses could be more efficient. Whilst the Restaurant manager will like feedback you start to cross the line when you start pointing at the restaurant across the road and start screaming “why aren’t you more like them!!!”, you could have just gone to the other restaurant and not made a scene.

The reality is, those 2 restaurants work in harmony with each other. They appeal to different tastes. Just like how WoW appeals to certain peoples tastes, and not to others.

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Well you have technically acces to all content except not the ’ rewards that where somekind of special’

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you’re still doing the same thing telling me to stop playing the game because i don’t like some parts of it . it’s not up to you to decide what i will or will not play. yes limited time events and rewards are a thing but there’s so many of them in wow and like i said before they give important cosmetic rewards .

i have no idea why did u write this ?

there’s too many of them so it becomes pretty visable . i’m not asking blizzard to give me anything from wow’s launch event. they can easily make scarab lord an annual thing and let few people to obtain it again or mage tower skins can be added as rewards to new challenges that also includes new rewards. they can easily do these but SOME people are so scared that they will not feel special if they loose a certain unique thing in the game that they don’t let blizz to do it.

rewards are the reason why we do some contents right ? why do they even let old content exist if people can’t obtain some of the old rewards ?

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I’m not telling you to stop playing the WoW. I said earlier I would rather you enjoyed the WoW.

But we’re at a point where you’re asking for something to change in the game that I and other people enjoy. You’re effectively asking that the game gets made worse for other people, just because you’re not happy with how the game has been for 19 years.

I’m only suggesting that there are probably other games that does what you want better than WoW and you might prefer playing those.

But I’ll repeat myself:

There is a reason why there are several MMOs, there’s a reason why FF14 has been successful recently. They all appeal to different types of players, people who want different things. I tried FF14 and couldn’t get past the first quest. But I didn’t go to their forums and demand they be more like WoW, I just logged into WoW again.

It’s the same as Counter Strike, COD, Fortnite and Overwatch. They all have a different focus, a different way of playing the game and all appeal to different people for different reasons.

I hope that makes a little bit more sense now.

Well to find out how you think having Scarab Lord title will help you to Progress through WoW’s content? Will having that title help you kill the first boss in Normal Vault of incarnates (something you haven’t done yet).

It doesn’t. Having or not having that title adds no value to your game play experience. You don’t really need it.

It is an annual thing. I mean you won’t get the Title. But you can relive the content. Thats what you want right? To experience the Opening of the Gates of Ahn’Qiraj.

See you’re being toxic again. You’re accusing people of being “scared” about not “feeling special”.

Again, you fail to understand the importance, and opt to make petty comments instead.

Whilst I’m all for making new skins (even recolours), there is no need to bring back the old ones. Allow those rewards to be there for people who earnt them the way the challenge was originally designed.

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yes i am being toxic because you still don’t give any reason and yet tell me to do stuff and say things like ‘‘something you haven’t done yet’’ etc.
you’re just using irrelevant things to change the narrative here.

where is the title ? would it hurt if they give it out to a new player every year .

still gatekeeping the content at the end of the day, this is why this game is doomed and can’t hold new players because there’s some sort of hierarchy in players’ minds .

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I’m giving plenty of reason. You’re just choosing to ignore it.

Does it hurt that they don’t?

again, I just don’t think you really understand WoW or the way WoW has been played for years upon years.

As I said, you really should just get involved in the actual Game Play and watch how the game evolves over time. You’ll learn to love it!

But if you don’t participate in the game, you’ll never really learn to value what the game is. And further more, you’ll never understand why what you’re asking for will ruin the game for other people.

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You sure get pretty worked up over something meaningless.

Guess its not ‘meaningless’ after all.

I also love the mental gymnastics you pull here off continually to justify your standpoint. Just go with “logic be damned, I want it”. Its more honest and far less stupid.

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